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Subject: Re: Dann more info Positions 3 and 5

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 21:20:11 12/16/05

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On December 16, 2005 at 19:19:04, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 16, 2005 at 18:06:01, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On December 16, 2005 at 17:02:33, K. Burcham wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit
>>>2200 mhz AMD
>>>432 hash
>>>
>>>r2qk2r/ppp1b1pp/2n1p3/3pP1n1/3P2b1/2PB1NN1/PP4PP/R1BQK2R w KQkq - bm Nxg5; id
>>>"Position 3";
>>>1.h3 Bxf3 2.gxf3
>>>  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 22   09:20:55  2534458kN
>>
>>Bruce's page has some comments about this as a possible alternative move.
>>Still, the score is not very convincing.
>>
>>>r2qrb1k/1p1b2p1/p2ppn1p/8/3NP3/1BN5/PPP3QP/1K3RR1 w - - bm e5; id "Position 5";
>>>1.e5 Nh5
>>>  +-  (4.01)   Depth: 20   06:20:55  1902293kN
>>
>>At what ply and time was the correct answer discovered?
>
>Note that I could show that 1.e5 is winning by the following tree
>When I let yace to go backward it can see score of even more than +4 in the root
>
>
>[Event "38'/40+38'/40+38'/40"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "2005.10.06"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "New game"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "*"]
>[Annotator ",agur"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "r2qrb1k/1p1b2p1/p2ppn1p/8/3NP3/1BN5/PPP3QP/1K3RR1 w - - 0 1"]
>[PlyCount "13"]
>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>[TimeControl "40/2280:40/2280:40/2280"]
>
>1. e5 dxe5 (1... Nh5 2. Qg6 Qh4 (2... d5 3. Qxh5 Re7 4. Qg4) 3. Bc4 Nf4 4. Rxf4
>Qxf4 5. Bd3 Kg8 6. exd6) 2. Ne4 Nh5 (2... Ng8 3. Rxf8 Qe7 4. Rxe8 Bxe8 (4...
>Rxe8) 5. Nxe6 Bc6 6. Qg6 Bxe4 7. Qxe4 Nf6 8. Qxe5) (2... g5 3. Nxg5 Qe7 4.
>Ngxe6) 3. Qg6 Nf4 (3... exd4 4. Ng5 Qxg5 5. Rxg5) (3... Qe7 4. Qxh5) (3... Qh4
>4. Nf3) (3... Bb5 4. Nxe6 Rxe6 5. Qxe6) (3... Bc6 4. Nxc6 bxc6 5. Qxh5) (3...
>a5 4. Qxh5 Re7 5. Rg6) (3... b6 4. Qxh5 Re7 5. Nf6) (3... b5 4. Qxh5 Re7 5. Nf6
>) (3... Rc8 4. Qxh5 Re7 5. Qxe5) (3... Rb8 4. Qxh5 Re7 5. Qxe5) 4. Rxf4 exf4 5.
>Nf3 Qb6 6. Rg5 Qd8 (6... e5 7. Qxb6 Bc6 8. Nxe5 Bxe4 9. Qd4) 7. Ne5 *

Yace really does have lovely output when annotating a game.  Also, the printed
analysis when it hits EGTB is the best that I have seen.




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