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Subject: Re: Statistics of the 5 new openings in my ratinglist

Author: Dagh Nielsen

Date: 05:49:09 12/17/05

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On December 17, 2005 at 07:36:20, Per Jørgensen wrote:

>Hello Chesscomputerfriends!
>
>As I described in this Forum on the 15th of December and earlier I'm making a
>new Ratinglist based on 15 openingpositions. 10 of these are known from the
>CSS-Ranglist (for further information check this website www.computerschach.de),
>here are the 5 new openingpositions:
>
>C30 = Kings Gambit (1.e4,e5 2.f4)
>
>E17 = Queenindian (1.d4,Sf6 2.c4,e6 3.Sf3,b6 4.g3,Lb7 5.Lg2,Le7)
>
>B02 = Scandinavian (1.e4,d5 2.exd5)
>
>D35 = Orthodox Queens Gambit (1.d4,d5 2.c4,e6 3.Sc3,Sf6)
>
>A57 = Modern Ben Oni (1.d4,Sf6 2.c4,c5 3.d5)
>
>450 Games are played so far. It's time to see how the new openingpositions are
>doing and which engines who are performing best in each opening. Here comes the
>current dates:
>
>Kings Gambit: White-score: 40% Black-score: 60%
>Queenindian: White-score: 46,67% Black-score: 53,33%
>Ben Oni: White-score: 65% Black-score: 35%
>Scandinavian: White-score: 56,67% Black-score: 43,33%
>Orthodox Queens Gambit: White-score: 56,67% Black-score 43,33%
>
>And here you can see which engine made the highest score so far in each opening:
>
>WHITE:
>
>Kings Gambit: Fritz 9 70%
>Queenindian: Toga II 1.1 80%
>Ben Oni: Fritz 9 100%(!)
>Scandinavian: Toga II 1.1 80%
>Orthodox Queens Gambit: Fritz 9 and Fruit 2.2.1 each 70%
>
>BLACK:
>
>Kings Gambit: Shredder 9 90%
>Queenindian: Fruit 2.2.1 and Shredder 9 each 80%
>Ben Oni: Fritz 9 70%
>Scandinavian: Ktulu 7.5 70%
>Orthodox Queens Gambit: Shredder 9 70%
>
>I don't see any big surprises in these statistis dates with the exception of
>Ktulu 7.5's great performance with the black pieces in Scandinavian. It's also
>worth mentioning the dominant position of Fritz 9 in Ben Oni (a total score of
>85%).
>
>The Spike 1.0a Mainz test have been running for a couple of days and so far
>Spike is having a hard time. The current score is around 38% and very close to
>that of Loop List. The test will be done in app. 5 days and I'll post the result
>and the new ranking here in the forum. After that the Hiarcs 10 test will start.
>
>Best regards
>Per

Hello Per, thanks for your careful information.

I included the Benoni as Black for some time in my Playchess book, playing with
Fruit. It was also my experience that Fritz 9 (and Schredder 9) was very good as
White in this opening. Also, it was striking that in this opening, difference
between Fruit evaluation and Fritz 9 evaluation was often very big, like +0.2 vs
+1.3. To me, it seemed like Fritz 9 (and Schredder 9) was able to give a bonus
for white due to more space/superior pawn structure, while Fruit acted more like
a bean counter in this opening.

A comment about test position scores:

Ideally, I would aim for test positions that:

(1) Score close to 50%.
(2) Have a relatively low draw score (=interesting positions).

In both instances, the point would be not to give "free" points to the weaker
engine. In light of (2), you may want to provide statistics for the 1-0/½-½/0-1
scores of the different positions.

I see no problem if black scores slightly better, positions are played from both
sides anyway (so, in a sense, test positions are color neutral).

Regards,
Dagh Nielsen



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