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Subject: Re: Unmasking the Secrets of Rybka and Fruit

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 01:26:28 12/18/05

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On December 17, 2005 at 07:28:22, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On December 16, 2005 at 21:30:37, Walter Faxon wrote:
>
>>On December 16, 2005 at 03:42:44, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>>
>>>On December 15, 2005 at 16:15:06, Andrew Wagner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 15, 2005 at 16:07:10, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Recently two programs came upon the scene and astonished many
>>>>>with their great results.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you think they do better, specifically?
>>>>
>>>>A very good question. If I were able to ask Vasik one question, which I doubt he
>>>>would have time to answer at the moment, it would be whether he did anything
>>>>radically different (different heuristic(s), algorithms, etc.), or if he just
>>>>did what everyone else is doing, better than they did it.
>>>
>>>Andy,
>>>
>>>I will just end up teasing you by answering this. :)
>>>
>>>As far as I know, Rybka has a very original search and evaluation framework. A
>>>lot of things that have been dismissed by "computer chess practice" can in fact
>>>work.
>>>
>>>In addition, there is vast room for further improvement. If I could get a team
>>>of let's say four smart people to work for four years full time (and this of
>>>course won't happen), the engine could be improved by probably 500 rating
>>>points.
>>>
>>>Vas
>>
>>
>>PB* ?
>>CNS ?
>>Monkeys and darts ?
>>
>>-W:)ter
>
>Tried monkeys and darts but it seemed to give a small performance loss. Need
>more data though ..
>
>:)
>
>Vas


In my experience tuning the monkeys and darts can be somewhat painful. :)

Ryan



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