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Subject: Re: Shortest mate that programs cannot find or take long time

Author: John Merlino

Date: 10:55:01 12/19/05

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On December 17, 2005 at 23:12:48, William Kerr wrote:

>On December 17, 2005 at 15:51:16, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>What is the shortest mate that you know programs cannot find?
>>and
>>What is the shortest mate you know that most programs take a deep search to
>>find?
>>
>>kburcham
>
>Here are some. Most if not all are null movers which gives some engines fits.
>
>Mate in 3 (From Yace programmer)
>[D] 8/1B6/8/5p2/8/8/5Qrq/1K1R2bk w - - bm Qa7;id very very tough mate in 3;

The great mate-solver, The King, takes 29 seconds to find the right move and
announce Mate in 3 on an AMD 2500.

>Mate in 4 (Benko's Bafflers # 1097)
>[D] 8/3p1p2/5Ppp/K2R2bk/4pPrr/6Pp/4B2P/3N4 w - - bm Nc3;

This one is not found in under 5 minutes! Even after forcing 1.Nc3 d6, it still
takes over a minute to announce Mate in 3 -- great problem!

>Another tough mate in 4 (Benko's Bafflers # 1217)
>[D] 5R2/2K5/1pP5/4k2p/3pp3/2p5/B4N1b/n1R1B2b w - - bm Rxc3;id very tough mate in
>4  BB # 1217;

This one, on the other hand, takes only three seconds.

jm



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