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Subject: Re: How does your computer react to this ?

Author: blass uri

Date: 03:37:21 03/28/99

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On March 28, 1999 at 02:32:15, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On March 28, 1999 at 01:14:55, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On March 28, 1999 at 00:10:37, Paulo Soares wrote:
>>
>>>On March 27, 1999 at 10:38:07, Goette Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>Here is a position taken fom a study from Selesniev (1919), which is interesting
>>>>to submit to computers to see how they react. If black play the best line, they
>>>>will only get a draw, this according to my program Hiarcs 6.0.
>>>>And yours ? Does it find something else ?
>>>>
>>>>White to move.
>>>>White : Ka4,Re1,b5,c4,d5,g4,g5
>>>>Black : Kh8,Rh3,b6,c7,d7,e3,f7,g6,g7
>>>
>>>Goette,
>>>
>>>This study could be called whites play and draw?
>>>
>>>1.d6 cxd6 2.c5 dxc5 3.Rxe3 Rh2 4.Rh3+ Rxh3 stalamate.
>>>
>>>If this will be the main line, Crafty16.5 T,
>>>Fritz5.32 and Genius6  does not find this
>>>variant in aproach 7 minutes in PII-300 HT=60Mb.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Paulo Soares, from Brazil
>>
>>Junior5 can see the sraw in 2 minutes and 54 seconds at depth 21 on
>>pentium200MMX(64M hash tables)
>>Junior5.3 is slower in this position(there are of course positions that
>>Junior5.3 is faster) and needs 3 minutes and 31 seconds to see the draw.
>>
>>Even Junior4.6 can see the draw in less than 10 minutes on pentium200
>>(eqvivalent to less than 7 minutes on pentium300)
>>
>>If you want your program to solve this position at tournament time control then
>>buy Junior.
>>
>>Uri
>
>How does Junior/Fritz evaluate the position after 2. ...bxc5 ?  Crafty gives a
>nice advantage for black, but actually white will eventually win (Long Tablebase
>wins are finally seen after about 20-25 plies are played).  If Fritz/Junior give
>advantage to black in this position, this is the move that they should pick for
>black.
>
>Jeremiah
Junior5.3 gives advantage for white after 68 seconds at iteration 17.

Junior's evaluations:0.22:17,0.52:18,0.63:19,0.63:20,0.83:21(after 425 seconds)

Fritz5(16 bit)'s evaluations -0.56:15,-0.25:16 failed high
,-0.09:16,-0.03:17,0.09:18(only after almost 9 minutes)

Uri



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