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Subject: Re: Interview with Vasik Rajlich (The Fruit of The Rybka)

Author: Zappa

Date: 12:15:03 12/21/05

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On December 20, 2005 at 16:47:26, Albert Silver wrote:

>On December 20, 2005 at 16:30:11, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>
>>On December 20, 2005 at 15:17:25, Alex Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>Vasik Rajlich kindly agreed to give us an interview:
>>>
>>>http://www.uciengines.de/UCI-Engines/Rybka/vriv/vriv.html
>>>
>>>Thank you Vasik,
>>>Alex
>>
>>Good interview. Nice to attach a face and a personality with the program's
>>author. I wish they had gone into his formal studies more. He studied at MIT?
>>Anybody have some detail about that?
>>
>>The comment about his having learned much, in regards to search, from Fruit,
>>is a great clue. So he gets that search, adds some to it, then tacks on
>>a monster evaluation for middle-game stuff, and voila, Rybka.
>
>Learning a number of things from Fruit's search, and just taking at and adding
>some to it, aren't exactly the same thing. He does say, "Anyway, if I really had
>to give a number - my wild guess is that Rybka would be 20 rating points weaker
>had Fruit not appeared."
>
>I'm not an engine programmer, but I have never gotten the impression one could
>simply tack on a monster evaluation to a search, any search, without adding the
>equivalent of brakes and handbrakes to the engine's speed. Is Fruit so different
>that this can be done at so little cost?

Well part of that depends on how good of a programmer you are :)

Fruit doesn't have a big evaluation.  Mainly it just evaluates mobility.

anthony

>And if it isn't so different, then his search can't be simply Fruit's plus some,
>can it?
>
>                                          Albert
>
>>
>>Although I have the source code for Fruit 2.1, the thought of going through
>>any other person's program is really anathema to me nowadays. I get a feeling
>>it will "taint" me. And of course, that just taint so.
>>
>>So what is so special about Fruit 2.1's search? Anyone analyzed it care to
>>comment?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Stuart



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