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Subject: Re: i meant:1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 c6 6. Bd2 Qb6

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:30:18 12/21/05

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On December 21, 2005 at 20:05:33, John Merlino wrote:

>On December 21, 2005 at 19:03:43, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 2005 at 18:32:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>Which results in this position:
>>>[D]rnb1kb1r/pp2pppp/1qp2n2/8/3P4/2N2N2/PPPB1PPP/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 7
>>
>>White gets 57/5% of the points, in my database (well above average).
>>
>>Preferred moves seem to be Bd3, Bc4, Na4
>>I see Rb1 played occasionally in my database, but it looks inferior.
>
>CM9000's opening book ends at 6...Qb6. CM9_R1 on a P4-2.4 likes the position
>very much for White and says this:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/6	1.39	39467		7.Bd3 c5 8.Bb5+ Nbd7 9.dxc5 Qxc5
>					10.Be3 Qb4
>0:00	1/6	1.40	42928		7.Na4 Qd8 8.Bd3 b5 9.Nc5 e5 10.O-O
>					exd4
>0:00	1/7	1.29	58085		7.Na4 Qc7 8.Bd3 Nbd7 9.O-O e5 10.Qe2
>					Bd6
>0:01	1/8	1.19	122963		7.Na4 Qc7 8.Bd3 e6 9.O-O Bd6 10.Nc5
>					O-O 11.c4
>0:02	1/8	1.46	266962		7.Bd3 Qxb2 8.Rb1 Qa3 9.O-O Nbd7
>					10.Rb3 Qa5 11.Qe2
>0:04	1/9	1.27	634459		7.Bd3 e6 8.O-O Be7 9.Rb1 O-O 10.Qe2
>					c5 11.d5 Bd6
>0:11	1/10	1.44	1610449		7.Bd3 e6 8.O-O Be7 9.a4 O-O 10.a5
>					Qd8 11.Qe2 Nd5
>0:29	1/11	1.24	4567995		7.Bd3 e6 8.O-O Bd6 9.a4 O-O 10.a5
>					Qc7 11.Qe2 Ng4 12.h3 Nf6
>1:35	1/12	1.36	15184957	7.Bd3 e6 8.O-O Bd6 9.a4 O-O 10.Qe2
>					Nbd7 11.a5 Qd8 12.Ne4 Nxe4 13.Qxe4
>
>jm

I guess that if you let it run for a few hours it will drop to about .75 or
less.

Most of the engines I ran against it had great enthusiasm during the initial
plies that gradually wanes over time.

Here is some ten minute analysis:
Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: 600 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Shredder9UCI

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Shredder9UCI): Nc3-a4
    Not found in: 10:00
     2/2	00:00	          43	211	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
     3/3	00:00	         145	714	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
     3/6+	00:00	         291	1.433	+1.10	Bf1c4
     3/6	00:00	         342	1.684	+1.10	Bf1c4 Bc8g4 00
     4/12	00:00	       1.175	5.788	+0.93	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 00 Bc8f5
     4/12+	00:00	       1.287	6.339	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
     4/12	00:00	       1.288	6.344	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
     5/5	00:00	       1.402	6.906	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
     5/10+	00:00	       2.014	9.921	+1.03	Bf1c4
     5/11+	00:00	       3.059	13.968	+1.38	Bf1c4
     5/11	00:00	       4.266	19.479	+1.49	Bf1c4 Bc8g4 Nc3a4 Qb6d8 00
     6/11-	00:00	       6.185	28.242	+1.24	Bf1c4 Bc8g4
     6/12	00:00	       9.221	39.405	+1.22	Bf1c4 Bc8f5 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 00 e7e6
     7/13	00:00	      16.973	67.892	+1.05	Bf1c4 Bc8f5 Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Na4c5 b7b5
Bc4e2
     7/13+	00:00	      24.232	91.097	+1.06	Nc3a4
     7/13	00:00	      26.910	101.165	+1.37	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Bg4xf3
Qd1xf3 Qd8xd4
     8/14	00:00	      46.421	148.309	+1.24	Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Nb8d7 h2h3
Bg4h5
     8/14+	00:00	      57.070	173.993	+1.25	Bf1c4
     8/16	00:00	      65.703	183.016	+1.28	Bf1c4 Bc8f5 00 Nb8d7 Rf1e1 e7e6 Nc3a4
Qb6c7
     9/18	00:00	     115.341	254.615	+1.06	Bf1c4 Bc8g4 00 e7e6 Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bd2g5
b7b5 Bg5xf6
     9/18+	00:00	     123.976	256.148	+1.07	Nc3a4
     9/18	00:00	     144.237	279.529	+1.19	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 Na4c3 Nb8d7
00 Qd8b6 Nc3a4
    10/18	00:00	     189.815	303.704	+1.17	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1
00 c2c4 Nb8d7
    11/19	00:01	     337.690	360.010	+1.05	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 e7e6 Rf1e1
Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Qd8xd4 Na4c3 Bf8d6
    12/21	00:02	     726.334	404.192	+1.03	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 e7e6 Bd2e3
Bf8d6 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 00 c2c4
    13/24	00:03	   1.513.918	428.750	+1.01	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 c2c3 e7e6
h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Nb8d7 00 Bf8d6 Bd2f4 Bd6xf4
    13/29+	00:05	   2.182.362	440.614	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
    13/29	00:05	   2.185.834	439.894	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
    14/16	00:05	   2.203.893	440.778	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
    15/23	00:07	   3.270.727	443.488	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
    16/19	00:11	   5.195.418	449.314	+1.02	Bf1d3 Bc8g4
    17/34	01:02	  27.021.195	436.156	+0.87	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 e7e6
00 Nb8d7 Qf3g3 Qb6xd4 Nc3e2 Qd4e5 Bd2f4 Qe5c5 Bf4c7 Nf6h5
    18/35	01:55	  50.553.827	437.812	+0.88	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 e7e6
00 Nb8d7 Qf3g3 Qb6xd4 Bd2e3 Qd4e5 Be3f4 Qe5d4
    19/40	03:40	  95.937.423	435.522	+0.74	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 e7e6
Qf3f4 Bf8b4 00 00 a2a3 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 c6c5 Bd2e3 Nb8d7
    19/40+	06:19	 161.220.917	425.454	+0.75	Nc3a4
    19/43	07:45	 197.965.071	425.902	+0.88	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 c2c4 e7e6 Qd1c2 Bf8d6
Bf1e2 00
   12/21/2005 4:15:20 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 4:15:22 PM, Total time: 12:10:06 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Fruit2.2.1

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Fruit2.2.1): Bf1-d3
    Not found in: 10:00
     2/8	00:01	         146	0	+0.61	b2b3 Bc8f5
     2/8	00:01	         269	0	+0.92	Nc3a4 Qb6c7
     3/8	00:01	         459	0	+0.97	Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Na4c5
     4/9	00:01	       1.609	0	+1.05	Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Bf1d3 Nb8a6
     5/11	00:01	       3.956	0	+1.25	Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Bf1d3 b7b5 Na4c5
     6/11	00:01	       9.810	0	+1.34	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3
Qd8xd4
     7/14	00:01	      27.598	0	+1.04	Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Bf1d3 b7b5 Na4c3 b5b4 Nc3e4
Nf6xe4 Bd3xe4
     7/17	00:01	      56.213	0	+1.16	Bf1d3 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 Rb1b3 Qa3a5 00
     8/22	00:01	     178.737	0	+1.23	Bf1d3 Qb6xb2 00 Nf6d5 Nc3a4 Qb2a3 Na4c5
Nb8a6
     9/22	00:01	     285.763	0	+1.11	Bf1d3 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 Rb1b3 Qa3d6 00
Nf6g4 Rf1e1
    10/22	00:01	     604.121	0	+1.20	Bf1d3 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 Rb1b3 Qa3d6 00
Nb8a6 Rf1e1 Nf6g4
    11/26	00:03	   1.543.432	635.000	+0.92	Bf1d3 e7e6 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 c2c4 Nb8a6
c4c5 Nf6d5 00 Na6b4 Bd2xb4 Nd5xb4
    12/42	00:08	   4.711.212	657.143	+0.99	Bf1d3 e7e6 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1
00 g2g3 Nb8d7 Nf3g5 Rf8d8
    13/42	00:14	   8.585.547	646.154	+0.83	Bf1d3 e7e6 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 00 Bf8d6 Na4c3
00 Nc3e4 Nf6xe4 Bd3xe4 Nb8d7 Qd1e2 Nd7f6
    14/42	00:33	  20.916.881	653.111	+0.93	Bf1d3 e7e6 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 c2c4 Bf8d6
Qd1c1 Nf6h5 c4c5 Bd6f4 00 00 Qc1c2 Nh5f6
    15/42	01:03	  41.965.395	675.955	+0.88	Bf1d3 e7e6 Qd1e2 Bf8d6 000 Nb8d7
Nc3e4 Bd6e7 Kc1b1 00 h2h4 Nf6d5 h4h5 Be7a3 b2b3
    16/42	02:48	 114.143.758	683.213	+0.74	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Qb6xd4
Rf1e1 Nb8d7 Qf3g3 e7e5 Ra1d1 Qd4g4 Qg3xg4 Nf6xg4 Bd3f5 h7h5 Bd2e3 Nd7f6
    17/48	08:00	 325.029.510	677.710	+0.65	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Qb6xd4
000 Nb8d7 Bd2e3 Qd4b4 Qf3g3 Nf6d5 Be3d2 Qb4b6 Rh1e1 Nd7c5 Bd3f5 e7e6
   12/21/2005 4:25:39 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 4:25:40 PM, Total time: 12:20:24 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Rybka v1.0 Beta.w32

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Rybka v1.0 Beta.w32): Bf1-d3
    Not found in: 10:00
      3	00:01	         633	13.504	+0.39	Bf1c4
      4	00:01	       1.487	23.792	+0.34	Bf1c4
      5	00:01	       5.490	44.617	+0.44	Bf1c4 Bc8f5
      6	00:01	      11.350	52.829	+0.40	Bf1c4 e7e6 00
      7	00:01	      25.893	67.638	+0.37	Bf1c4 Bc8f5 00 Nb8d7
      7	00:01	      40.606	78.012	+0.41	Bf1d3 Nb8d7 00 e7e6
      8	00:01	      54.842	83.444	+0.38	Bf1d3 Nb8d7 00 e7e6 Qd1e2
      9	00:02	      89.572	86.204	+0.42	Bf1d3 Nb8d7 00 e7e6 Ra1b1 Bf8e7
     10	00:03	     175.602	88.448	+0.38	Bf1d3 Nb8d7 00 e7e6 Qd1e2 Bf8d6 Nc3e4
     11	00:08	     612.729	91.249	+0.37	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 Qd1e2 Bf8d6 a2a4
a7a5
     12	00:20	   1.636.140	90.896	+0.39	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 Qd1e2 Bf8d6 a2a4
a7a5 b2b3
     13	00:39	   3.252.587	87.907	+0.43	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 Qd1e1 a7a5 Nc3e4
Bf8e7 Ne4xf6+ Nd7xf6
     14	00:54	   4.548.708	89.190	+0.41	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 Qd1e1 a7a5 Nc3a4
Qb6c7 Nf3e5 Bf8d6
     15	01:37	   8.145.310	86.652	+0.40	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 Qd1e1 Qb6xb2 Qe1e2
Bf8e7 Rf1b1 Qb2a3
     16	04:27	  22.365.249	86.020	+0.46	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 a2a4 a7a5 Qd1e2
Bf8e7 Nc3e4 00
     17	06:45	  33.192.676	84.245	+0.43	Bf1d3 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 a2a4 Bf8e7 a4a5
Qb6c7 Qd1e2 00
   12/21/2005 4:35:50 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:01, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 4:35:51 PM, Total time: 12:30:35 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: DeepSjeng 1.6

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (DeepSjeng 1.6): Nc3-a4
    Not found in: 10:00
     3/5	00:00	         431	0	+1.13	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Na4c5
     4/11	00:00	         834	0	+0.93	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Na4c5 e7e5
     5/13	00:00	       2.188	0	+0.88	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1c4 Bc8g4 Bc4xf7+ Ke8xf7
Nf3e5+ Kf7g8 Ne5xg4 Qd8xd4
     6/15	00:00	       5.593	0	+0.88	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1c4 Bc8g4 Bc4xf7+ Ke8xf7
Nf3e5+ Kf7g8
     7/18	00:00	      26.326	0	+0.80	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3
Qd8xd4 Na4c3
     8/22	00:00	     102.615	0	+0.66	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 Bc8g4 c2c3 Nf6e4 00
Ne4xd2 Qd1xd2 Nb8d7
     8/22	00:00	     137.500	0	+0.67	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Nf3e5 e7e6 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 00
Nb8d7 Rf1e1 Nd7xe5 Re1xe5
     9/22	00:01	     312.429	0	+0.85	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 00 Nb8d7 Rb1b3
Qa3a5 Rf1e1 e7e6
    10/23	00:01	     561.259	0	+0.77	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 00 Qa3d6 Nf3e5
e7e6 Bd2f4 b7b5 Ne5g6
    11/29	00:03	   1.241.015	394.728	+0.78	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 00 Qa3d6
Nf3e5 e7e6 Bd2f4 Qd6a3 Rb1b3 Qa3d6
    12/30	00:07	   3.461.382	434.921	+0.72	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 00 Qa3d6
Nf3e5 e7e6 Bd2f4 Qd6d8 Rf1e1 Nb8d7 Qd1d2 Nd7xe5 Bf4xe5
    13/34	00:20	   9.731.068	459.952	+0.69	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 00 Qa3d6
Rf1e1 b7b5 Bc4b3 b5b4 Nc3e4 Nf6xe4 Re1xe4 Bc8f5 Re4e1
    14/38	01:13	  33.967.825	452.551	+0.63	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 00 Qb2a3 Rf1e1 e7e6
Nc3e4 Nf6xe4 Re1xe4 Nb8d7 Nf3g5 Nd7f6 Re4e1 Qa3b2 c2c3
    15/39	03:49	 105.550.769	452.653	+0.33	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 00 Qb2a3 Rf1e1 e7e6
Nc3e4 Nf6xe4 Re1xe4 Nb8d7 Ra1b1 Bf8e7 Re4e3 Qa3d6 Bd2b4 c6c5 Bb4c3
    15/39	05:02	 136.064.188	461.369	+0.64	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 c2c4 e7e6 Bf1e2 Nf6e4 00
Ne4xd2 Qd1xd2 Bf8e7 Be2d3 Nb8a6 Ra1e1 00 Na4c3 Bc8d7 Nf3e5
    16/42	09:13	 244.563.441	449.474	+0.71	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 Bc8g4 c2c4 e7e6
Qd1b3 b7b6 000 Bf8d6 h2h3 Bg4h5 g2g4 Bh5g6 Nf3e5 00 Ne5xg6 h7xg6 f2f4 Nb8d7
   12/21/2005 4:46:27 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 4:46:28 PM, Total time: 12:41:12 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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BOOK MOVE HERE (I wish it would analyze when I ask it to, book move or no):

Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Gandalf60

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Gandalf60): Nc3-a4
    Not found in: 10:00
   Nc3-a4
   12/21/2005 4:46:40 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:00:03, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 4:46:41 PM, Total time: 12:41:26 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Glaurung

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Glaurung): Nc3-a4
    Not found in: 10:00
     2/4	00:01	         133	0	+0.73	b2b3 Nb8a6
     2/6	00:01	         278	0	+0.87	Nc3a4 Qb6d8
     3/6	00:01	         437	0	+0.84	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Na4c5
     4/8	00:01	       1.750	0	+0.96	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Na4c5 Nb8a6 Nc5xa6 b7xa6
     5/8	00:01	       3.871	0	+0.96	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Na4c5 Nb8a6 Nc5xa6 b7xa6
     6/12	00:01	      14.377	463.774	+0.93	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Nb8a6 c2c4 e7e5
Nf3xe5 Qd8xd4
     7/13	00:01	      28.484	606.042	+0.93	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Nb8a6 c2c4 e7e5
Nf3xe5 Qd8xd4
     8/17	00:01	      59.119	472.952	+0.79	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Nb8a6 Qd1e2 Bc8g4
Bd3xa6 b7xa6 Qe2xa6
     8/17	00:01	     104.988	481.596	+0.85	Bf1c4 Bc8f5 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Na4c5 e7e6
Nf3g5 Bf8d6
     9/17	00:01	     259.937	489.523	+0.60	Bf1c4 e7e6 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Bc4d3 b7b5
Na4c5 Nb8d7 Nc5xd7 Bc8xd7
     9/17	00:01	     286.954	483.902	+0.81	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Nb8a6 Qd1e2 Bc8g4
h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qe2xf3
    10/20	00:02	     492.279	508.552	+0.81	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 e7e6 00 b7b5 Na4c3
Nb8d7 Rf1e1 Bf8d6
    11/21	00:03	   1.181.541	487.836	+0.57	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 c2c3 e7e6
h2h3 Bg4h5 00 Nb8a6 Rf1e1
    11/24	00:04	   1.639.129	485.667	+0.65	Bf1c4 e7e6 Qd1e2 Nb8a6 Nc3a4 Qb6c7
Bc4xa6 b7xa6 Nf3e5 Ra8b8 c2c4
    12/25	00:10	   4.541.130	471.805	+0.65	Bf1c4 e7e6 00 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3
Rb1b3 Qa3a5 Nc3d5 Qa5d8 Nd5xf6+ g7xf6 Rf1e1
    13/28	00:26	  11.647.021	457.319	+0.40	Bf1c4 Bc8f5 Nc3a4 Qb6c7 Nf3h4 Bf5e4
Na4c5 e7e6 Nc5xe4 Nf6xe4 00 Nb8d7 Rf1e1 Ne4xd2 Qd1xd2
    13/28	00:36	  16.113.081	455.300	+0.56	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 Nf6e4 00 Bc8f5
Rf1e1 Ne4xd2 Qd1xd2 e7e6 Be2d3 Bf5xd3 Qd2xd3
    14/39	01:01	  27.157.784	454.295	+0.51	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 e7e6 00 Nb8d7 Be2d3
b7b5 Na4c3 Bf8d6 a2a4 b5b4 Nc3e2 00
    15/39	02:05	  56.448.382	455.353	+0.54	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 Bc8g4 Na4c5 Bg4xf3
Be2xf3 Qd8xd4 Nc5xb7 Qd4xb2 Bd2a5 Qb2e5+ Bf3e2 Nb8d7 00 Nd7b6
    16/39	05:35	 149.122.289	446.774	+0.43	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 c2c4 Nf6e4 Bf1d3 Ne4xd2
Qd1xd2 Bc8g4 Nf3e5 Qd8xd4 Ne5xf7 Rh8g8 f2f3 Bg4e6 Nf7g5 Be6xc4 Bd3xc4 Qd4xc4
   12/21/2005 4:56:50 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 4:56:52 PM, Total time: 12:51:36 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: Ktulu_75

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (Ktulu_75): Bf1-d3
    Not found in: 10:00
      7	00:00	      36.347	1.211.566	+1.22	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 c2c3 Qd8d5
Bd2f4 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Qd5xf3
      8	00:00	      83.140	1.187.714	+1.14	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Bg4xf3
Qd1xf3 Qd8xd4 Na4c3 e7e5 Rf1e1 Nb8d7 Bd2g5
      9	00:00	     284.638	1.138.552	+1.05	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 00 Bg4xf3
Qd1xf3 Qd8xd4 b2b4 Nb8d7 Bd2c3 Qd4d5 Qf3f4
     10	00:00	     623.202	1.154.077	+1.03	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1d3 Bc8g4 Na4c3 Bg4xf3
Qd1xf3 Qd8xd4 000 Qd4g4 Qf3xg4 Nf6xg4 f2f3 Ng4f2
     11	00:02	   2.488.388	1.101.056	+1.05	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 Bc8g4 Bd2e3 Qd8a5+
Na4c3 Nf6e4 00 Ne4xc3 b2xc3 Qa5xc3 Ra1b1 b7b5 Nf3e5
     12	00:08	   9.232.047	1.099.053	+0.87	Nc3a4 Qb6d8 Bf1e2 Bc8g4 Bd2e3 Qd8a5+
Na4c3 Nf6e4 00 Ne4xc3 b2xc3 Qa5xc3 Be3d2 Qc3a3 Qd1b1 b7b5 h2h3 Bg4f5 Nf3e5
     12	00:17	  18.512.099	1.100.600	+0.94	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 00 Bc8f5 Ra1b1 Qb2xc2
Qd1xc2 Bf5xc2 Rb1xb7 Nb8d7 Rf1c1 Bc2f5 Nf3g5 e7e6 Bd2f4 c6c5
     13	00:29	  31.770.587	1.090.274	+0.92	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 00 Qb2a3 Nf3e5 e7e6
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5c4 Qa3e7 Ra1b1 c6c5 Bd2e3 c5xd4 Be3xd4 e6e5 Rf1e1
     14	01:06	  72.594.354	1.102.587	+0.93	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 00 Qb2a3 Rf1e1 Nb8d7
Re1e3 Qa3d6 Nf3g5 Nf6d5 Ng5e4 Qd6e6 Qd1f3 Nd7b6 Nc3xd5 c6xd5 Ne4c5 Qe6f5 Bc4d3
     15	02:32	 170.372.471	1.117.343	+0.76	Bf1c4 Qb6xb2 Ra1b1 Qb2a3 Qd1e2 e7e6
Rb1b3 Qa3d6 Nc3e4 Nf6xe4 Qe2xe4 Nb8d7 00 Nd7b6 Bd2f4 Qd6d8 Bc4d3 Bf8e7 Rf1e1
     15	05:20	 364.426.621	1.138.015	+0.84	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Nb8d7
Qf3f4 Nf6d5 Nc3xd5 c6xd5 00 e7e6 a2a4 Bf8d6 Qf4g4 g7g6 Bd3b5 Ra8c8
     16	08:06	 549.975.736	1.131.637	+0.76	Bf1d3 Bc8g4 h2h3 Bg4xf3 Qd1xf3 Nb8d7
Qf3f4 Nf6d5 Nc3xd5 c6xd5 00 e7e6 a2a4 Bf8b4 c2c3 Bb4d6 Qf4g4 g7g6 Rf1b1 00 a4a5
Qb6b3 Bd2f4 Bd6xf4
   12/21/2005 5:07:04 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 5:07:05 PM, Total time: 1:01:49 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Analysis from E:\eval.epd
12/21/2005 4:05:15 PM Level: Infinite
Analyzing engine: PRODEO

1) - 0 7
    Avoid move:
    Best move (PRODEO): Nc3-a4
    Not found in: 10:00
      2	00:00	         235	235	+0.26	a1b1 c8g4
      2	00:00	         343	343	+0.28	d1c1 c8f5
      2	00:00	         478	478	+0.37	c3a4 b6c7
      3	00:00	         862	862	+0.55	c3a4 b6d8 a4c5
      4	00:00	       2.139	2.139	+0.49	c3a4 b6d8 a4c5 b8d7
      5	00:00	       6.931	6.931	+0.41	c3a4 b6d8 f1e2 c8g4 d2b4
      5	00:00	      24.618	24.618	+0.49	f1c4 b6b2 a1b1 b2a3 f3e5
      6	00:00	      47.613	47.613	+0.42	f1c4 e7e6 c3a4 b6d8 e1g1 f8d6
      7	00:00	     170.076	170.076	+0.58	f1c4 c8g4 c3a4 b6d8 c4f7 e8f7 f3e5 f7e8
e5g4 d8d4
      8	00:01	     348.041	348.041	+0.42	f1c4 c8g4 c4f7 e8f7 f3e5 f7e8 e5g4 b6d4
h2h3 e7e5
      8	00:01	     545.814	545.814	+0.47	f1d3 c8g4 h2h3 g4h5 c3a4 b6d8 a4c3
      9	00:01	   1.008.898	1.008.898	+0.45	f1d3 b6b2 a1b1 b2a3 f3e5 e7e6 b1b3
      9	00:01	   1.466.998	1.466.998	+0.48	f1c4 c8g4 c4f7 e8f7 f3e5 f7g8 e5g4
b6d4 g4e3 e7e5
     10	00:03	   3.176.938	1.588.469	+0.42	f1c4 c8g4 c4f7 e8f7 f3e5 f7g8 e5g4
b6d4 g4e3 b8d7
     11	00:09	  10.910.492	1.179.512	+0.42	f1c4 c8g4 c4f7 e8f7 f3e5 f7g8 e5g4
b6d4 g4e3 e7e6 e1g1
     11	00:11	  13.132.616	1.167.343	+0.46	f1d3 b6b2 a1b1 b2a3 f3e5 a3d6
     12	00:21	  26.781.715	1.275.319	+0.37	f1d3 c8g4 h2h3 g4f3 d1f3 b6d4 e1c1
     12	00:27	  33.441.714	1.238.582	+0.41	f1c4 b6b2 a1b1 b2a3
     13	01:03	  78.296.977	1.242.809	+0.38	f1c4 b6b2 a1b1 b2a3
     13	01:14	  91.418.414	1.235.383	+0.39	f1d3 c8g4 c3a4 b6d8 c2c4 e7e6 h2h3
g4h5 e1g1
     13	01:44	 123.135.516	1.183.995	+0.49	c3a4 b6d8 c2c4 b8a6 f1e2 c8g4
     14	03:38	 259.022.920	1.188.178	+0.45	c3a4 b6d8 c2c4
   12/21/2005 5:17:16 PM, Time for this analysis: 00:10:00, Rated time: 10:00

0 of 1 matching moves
12/21/2005 5:17:18 PM, Total time: 1:12:02 AM
Rated time: 10:00 = 600 Seconds

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Generally speaking, chess engines have terrible judgement in early opening
positions and absurd judgement in gambits.

For a bit of gambit fun, try this position on your chess engine:

[D]r1bqk1nr/pppp1ppp/2n5/b7/2BpP3/2P2N2/P4PPP/RNBQ1RK1 b kq - am dxc3; bm Nge7;

and see how long it takes to find Nge7.  Most engines I tried cannot find it in
an 8 hour search.  I have not tried it lately, but I guess that they still
cannot find it at 40/2, no matter what the hardware or program (w/o book, that
is).






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