Author: Uri Blass
Date: 17:43:24 12/21/05
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On December 21, 2005 at 19:08:59, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On December 21, 2005 at 12:47:14, Vladimir Xern wrote: > >>On December 21, 2005 at 11:36:22, Drexel,Michael wrote: >> >>>This game can hardly count as "orthodox" victory. >>>The win is solely based on very weak opening play by Rybka. >> >>Er, really? You mean to say that one side has to play worse than the other for >>it to lose? > >No, I mean to say exactly what I wrote. > >And here I thought that's how every chess game was decided. And that >>since Rybka played a particular part of the game worse and lost, it still >>"doesn't count" as a legitimate win? > >Why not. Be happy with your legitimate win. :) > >Rybka Beta is not what you can call a well-rounded program yet. It plays the >opening like a typical amateur engine (i.e. self-blockade of c-pawn or useless >Bishop checks on b4,b5) and has a serious lack of endgame knowledge. The opening moves are certainly result of too fast time control. > >Well damn, I guess I'm back to the drawing >>board since winning apparently isn't good enough. >>>Any good book has 1.e4 e6 2.e5 d6. Try to beat Rybka from there... >> >>If Rybka played anything that thoughtful, I wouldn't have gone for the Steinitz >>variation in the first place, would I have? > >Getting the engine out of book on purpose at move two is Anti-Computer chess. >There is nothing wrong with it but 1.e4 e6 2.e5 Sc6 3.d4 Bb4+? is not something >you can call "orthodox line" by any means. I tried rybka slightly positional and it likes 2...d6 and 3...d6. It cannot play the moves in the game in non blitz time control. New game - Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit, Blitz:1'+1" rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/4p3/4P3/8/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1 Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit: 2...Nc6 = (-0.07) Depth: 3 00:00:00 2...Nc6 = (-0.05) Depth: 4 00:00:00 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 = (-0.08) Depth: 5 00:00:00 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 Nh6 = (-0.05) Depth: 6 00:00:00 5kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 Nh6 4.Nc3 = (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:00 11kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 g5 4.h3 Nge7 = (-0.01) Depth: 8 00:00:00 36kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 Nh6 4.Nc3 Nf5 5.d4 = (0.01) Depth: 9 00:00:00 77kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 d6 4.Nc3 Nxe5 5.d4 Nxf3+ 6.Qxf3 Ne7 = (0.01) Depth: 10 00:00:01 181kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 f6 4.d4 fxe5 5.Nxe5 Nf6 6.Nc3 = (0.08) Depth: 11 00:00:05 516kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 f6 4.d4 fxe5 5.Nxe5 Nf6 6.Nc3 Bd6 = (0.05) Depth: 12 00:00:13 1229kN 2...Nc6 3.Nf3 f6 4.d4 fxe5 5.Nxe5 Nf6 6.Nxc6 bxc6 7.Nc3 = (0.07) Depth: 13 00:00:22 2122kN 2...d6 3.d4 dxe5 4.dxe5 Qxd1+ 5.Kxd1 Nd7 6.Nf3 Nh6 7.Bxh6 = (-0.02) Depth: 13 00:00:38 3444kN 2...d6 3.d4 dxe5 4.dxe5 Qxd1+ 5.Kxd1 Nc6 6.Nf3 Nh6 7.Bxh6 = (-0.01) Depth: 14 00:00:52 4738kN 2...d6 3.d4 dxe5 4.dxe5 Qxd1+ 5.Kxd1 Nc6 6.Nf3 Bc5 7.Nc3 = (-0.07) Depth: 15 00:01:38 8775kN 2...d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nc3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Nf6 6.d4 0-0 7.Be2 = (-0.07) Depth: 16 00:03:00 16000kN (, 22.12.2005) New game - Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit, Blitz:1'+1" r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/2n1p3/4P3/3P4/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 0 1 Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit: 3...Bb4+ = (-0.06) Depth: 3 00:00:00 3...Nh6 = (-0.10) Depth: 3 00:00:00 3...d6 = (-0.18) Depth: 3 00:00:00 3...d6 = (0.01) Depth: 4 00:00:00 3...Nh6 = (-0.05) Depth: 4 00:00:00 3...Nh6 4.Nc3 = (0.00) Depth: 5 00:00:00 3...Bb4+ 4.c3 Be7 = (-0.04) Depth: 5 00:00:00 3...Bb4+ 4.c3 Be7 5.Qg4 = (-0.13) Depth: 6 00:00:00 16kN 3...Bb4+ 4.c3 Ba5 5.Nf3 Nge7 = (-0.01) Depth: 7 00:00:00 28kN 3...Bb4+ 4.c3 Ba5 5.Nf3 Nge7 6.Bd3 = (0.01) Depth: 8 00:00:01 61kN 3...Bb4+ 4.c3 Ba5 5.Nf3 Nge7 6.Bd3 0-0 = (0.06) Depth: 9 00:00:02 119kN 3...Nh6 4.Nc3 d6 5.Bb5 dxe5 6.Nf3 = (0.00) Depth: 9 00:00:04 177kN 3...Nh6 4.Nf3 Nf5 5.Nc3 Bb4 6.a3 Bxc3+ 7.bxc3 0-0 = (0.07) Depth: 10 00:00:06 308kN 3...Nh6 4.Nf3 Nf5 5.Nc3 Bb4 6.a3 Ba5 7.g4 = (0.06) Depth: 11 00:00:10 647kN 3...Nh6 4.Nf3 Nf5 5.Nc3 Be7 6.Bd3 d5 7.Bxf5 exf5 8.0-0 = (0.09) Depth: 12 00:00:18 1317kN 3...d6 4.Nf3 dxe5 5.dxe5 Qxd1+ 6.Kxd1 Nh6 7.Bxh6 gxh6 8.Nc3 = (-0.01) Depth: 12 00:00:24 1875kN 3...d6 4.exd6 Bxd6 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.Nf3 0-0 7.Be2 Bd7 8.0-0 = (-0.10) Depth: 13 00:00:40 3196kN 3...d6 4.exd6 Bxd6 5.Nc3 Nge7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.Ne4 e5 8.dxe5 = (-0.14) Depth: 14 00:01:04 5078kN 3...d6 4.exd6 Bxd6 5.Nc3 Nge7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.Ne4 Ng6 8.Bd3 = (-0.09) Depth: 15 00:01:42 8194kN 3...d6 4.exd6 Bxd6 5.Nc3 Nge7 6.Nf3 0-0 7.Ne4 Nd5 8.Bc4 = (-0.10) Depth: 16 00:03:21 15685kN (, 22.12.2005)
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