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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 first results - Harry Schnapp test suite 440 used

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 15:08:28 12/22/05

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On December 22, 2005 at 15:04:22, Graham Banks wrote:

>On December 22, 2005 at 14:43:12, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 2005 at 06:03:49, Heinz van Kempen wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Uri,
>>>
>>>the advantage with Harry´s suite is that all lines are handpicked and tested by
>>>Harry Schnapp, who is by the way a very good chess player. They are chosen with
>>>many considerations and not only put togehter more or less randomly. I mean you
>>>can also compose a book by just taking MegaBase or something like that, give
>>>average opposition ELO of 2600 and set some weights. Even I could do this. This
>>>is exactly what Harry does not. He evalutated each single line and tested it to
>>>make sure that there is no big advantage for one side.
>>
>>ROTFL! This suite can only can be called weird. I could name several examples
>>where one side has a big advantage.
>>The 50 Noomen positions are way better.
>>
>>Michael
>
>
>Post some examples please.
>
>Graham.

Sure

Michael

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[Round "?"]
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1. e4 c5 2. c4 g6 3. d3 Bg7 4. f4 d6 5. h3 Nc6 6. Nf3 e6 7. Nc3 Nge7 8. g4 h5
9. gxh5 Rxh5 *

[Event "EventX"]
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1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. a3 Be7 6. Nbd2 O-O 7. b3 b6 8. Bb2 Ne8
9. Bd3 *

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[Round "?"]
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1. e4 c5 2. c4 d6 3. Ne2 Nc6 4. d4 Bd7 5. Nbc3 g6 6. d5 Ne5 7. Ng3 Bg7 8. Be2
h5 *

[Event "EventX"]
[Site "SiteX"]
[Date "2005.10.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayerY"]
[Black "PlayerX"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "D02"]
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[EventDate "2005.??.??"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 Nc6 4. Nf3 e6 5. O-O Bd7 6. Nc3 Bb4 7. Ne5 O-O 8. Bg5
Be8 *

[Event "EventX"]
[Site "SiteX"]
[Date "2005.10.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayerX"]
[Black "PlayerY"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "E60"]
[PlyCount "17"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Bf4 c5 4. e3 Bg7 5. Nc3 cxd4 6. exd4 O-O 7. Qd2 d5 8. Nf3
Nc6 9. cxd5 *

[Event "EventX"]
[Site "SiteX"]
[Date "2005.10.26"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayerX"]
[Black "PlayerY"]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "A00"]
[PlyCount "16"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]

1. Nf3 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. Bf4 Bg7 6. e3 Nf6 7. Be2 d6 8. g4
O-O *

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[Site "SiteX"]
[Date "2005.10.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayerX"]
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[Result "*"]
[ECO "D30"]
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[EventDate "2005.??.??"]

1. d4 e6 2. c4 d5 3. e3 Nf6 4. Qa4+ Nc6 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. Nc3 Bb4 7. Qc2 Ba5 8.
Nf3 Ncb4 9. Qb3 *

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[Site "SiteX"]
[Date "2005.10.30"]
[Round "?"]
[White "PlayerY"]
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[Result "*"]
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[EventDate "2005.??.??"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. e3 c5 5. Nc3 cxd4 6. exd4 dxc4 7. Bxc4 Nc6 8.
Nf3 Be7 9. O-O O-O *












>
>
>>>No quick threefold repetitions after being out of the pregiven line. They mainly
>>>stop at a point where engines have to show to "understand" it. 220 positions
>>>with 8 moves (16 plies), 220 more with seventeen plies to avoid doubles when
>>>used as a book. There will be bigger suites and books I assume, but for this one
>>>I am really considering to use them in a way I did with Nunn positions in former
>>>times. I am watching games for weeks now with this suite and I am really
>>>impressed by the quality of the suite and by Harry´s dedicated work.
>>>
>>>Best Regards
>>>Heinz



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