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Subject: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredder)

Author: Jonathan Lee

Date: 16:20:35 12/22/05

Wow, 2005 what a year has it been for computer chess!
Shredder used to be the gold standard, but...

The new chess engines:
Hydra, the hardware monster especially strangling GM Michael Adams.
Zappa wins the 2005 WCCC but doesn't come commercially to the public.
Fruit, 2.1 is free with source code.  Later 2.2 and 2.2.1 make a leap.  It also
wins 2nd in the 2005 WCCC.
Toga II, a freeware and a derivate of Fruit has improvements on 1.0 and 1.1.
Rybka, possibly a quantum leap on middlegame positions.
Spike wins the 1st ever Chess960 tournament.

The old chess engines:
Shredder, version 10 should come out soon but the competition above is fierce.
Fritz 9 goes above Shredder 9 but not enough for the new chess engines.
Junior 9 which plays well against Shredder doesn't go well enough against the
new chess engines.

I am excited to see new and old engines fighting it out.
Jonathan
PS Did I miss something in chess software history of 2005.  Please reply your
thoughts.

Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Zappa 17:33:50 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Peter Kappler 19:15:18 12/22/05
  - Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Thomas Gaksch 00:21:09 12/23/05
    - Re: Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Thorsten Czub 07:07:36 12/23/05
    - Re: Thank You for TogaII 1.1a :-) phili_ppe 05:57:55 12/23/05
    - Re: Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Pedro Gomes 03:54:08 12/23/05
    - A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 01:59:10 12/23/05
      - Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Thomas Gaksch 02:36:12 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Keith Hyams 08:31:05 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Stuart Cracraft 13:38:20 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 11:04:04 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Wayne Lowrance 13:06:26 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Robert Hollay 12:51:57 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 13:45:31 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Robert Hollay 00:32:31 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 03:10:02 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Graham Banks 12:04:52 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Paul Jacobean Sacral 01:10:11 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 02:45:02 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Uri Blass 02:33:56 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Ryan B. 01:35:26 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Paul Jacobean Sacral 01:42:23 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Ryan B. 02:17:58 12/24/05
        
        Forgiveness and a thanks Albert Silver 03:36:07 12/23/05
        
        Re: Forgiveness and a thanks Greg Simpson 09:13:00 12/23/05
        
        Re: Forgiveness and a thanks Ryan B. 12:26:10 12/23/05
        
        Re: Forgiveness and a thanks gerold daniels 05:41:18 12/23/05
        
        Re: I support this posting 100%! (n.t.) Paul Jacobean Sacral 03:38:27 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Robert Hollay 03:24:01 12/23/05
      - Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:18:52 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Rolf Tueschen 02:27:14 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:43:13 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Tord Romstad 06:08:26 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Roger Brown 08:24:27 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Roger Brown 08:15:10 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Uri Blass 03:27:47 12/23/05
    - Re: Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Greg Simpson 00:55:53 12/23/05
      - 2005 Review (dark side) Heli Weigel 01:29:23 12/23/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Uri Blass 21:44:26 12/22/05
    - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Peter Kappler 23:14:33 12/22/05
      - Re: Fruit is based on Toga Paul Jacobean Sacral 01:30:37 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga Ryan B. 02:23:07 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:57:55 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Uri Blass 03:13:13 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Joost Buijs 07:31:44 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Paul Jacobean Sacral 03:21:54 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Uri Blass 03:42:21 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Ryan B. 03:28:28 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Paul Jacobean Sacral 04:01:00 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Andrew Williams 06:14:49 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Uri Blass 06:31:12 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Tord Romstad 05:31:13 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Ryan B. 04:14:25 12/23/05
        
        Re: Ryan B. says "Toga had nothing to do with Fruits progress." Paul Jacobean Sacral 04:20:29 12/23/05
        
        Re: Ryan B. says "Toga had nothing to do with Fruits progress." Ryan B. 04:32:32 12/23/05
        
        Re: Ryan B. says "Toga had nothing to do with Fruits progress." Uri Blass 04:50:14 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:59:32 12/23/05
      - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Uri Blass 23:39:46 12/22/05
      - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Robert Hollay 23:38:28 12/22/05
        
        Sorry! It's Thomas and not Joachim....sorry ... Robert Hollay 23:40:16 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Paul Jacobean Sacral 21:02:05 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Zappa 19:54:01 12/22/05
    - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Joseph Ciarrochi 20:40:38 12/22/05
    - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Graham Banks 20:04:30 12/22/05
      - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Jonas Cohonas 21:03:47 12/22/05
        
        Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Joseph Ciarrochi 22:11:29 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Ryan B. 19:48:52 12/22/05
    - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Greg Simpson 20:33:40 12/22/05
      - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Joseph Ciarrochi 20:46:20 12/22/05
  - in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Joseph Ciarrochi 19:43:35 12/22/05
    - Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Ryan B. 19:54:21 12/22/05
      - Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Graham Banks 19:58:22 12/22/05
        
        Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Ryan B. 20:12:53 12/22/05
        
        Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Claude Le Page 01:07:58 12/23/05
        
        Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Ryan B. 03:15:17 12/23/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Ryan B. 19:11:56 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Uri Blass 22:14:38 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Dann Corbit 17:39:05 12/22/05
Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredder) Dann Corbit 16:39:07 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Vladyslav Kosulin 11:06:18 12/23/05

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