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Subject: Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 19:15:18 12/22/05

On December 22, 2005 at 20:33:50, Zappa wrote:

>A different view:
>
>Hydra, too weak to show at Paderborn
>Zappa, the best thing since sliced bread
>Fruit, proving once again that KISS works.
>Toga II, the clone of fruit with literally 50 lines changed that people somehow
>credit as a real engine

And isn't it true the the author of Toga initially tried to claim that the code
was 100% his?  It's beyond me why anybody recognizes Toga as a distinct engine.
It sounds like it contains about as much original work as a Chessmaster
personality.

-Peter

>Rybka, an interesting and totally different approach that seems to work real
>well
>
>anthony

Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Thomas Gaksch 00:21:09 12/23/05
- Re: Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Thorsten Czub 07:07:36 12/23/05
- Re: Thank You for TogaII 1.1a :-) phili_ppe 05:57:55 12/23/05
- Re: Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Pedro Gomes 03:54:08 12/23/05
- A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 01:59:10 12/23/05
  - Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Thomas Gaksch 02:36:12 12/23/05
    - Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Keith Hyams 08:31:05 12/23/05
      - Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Stuart Cracraft 13:38:20 12/24/05
      - Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 11:04:04 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Wayne Lowrance 13:06:26 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Robert Hollay 12:51:57 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 13:45:31 12/23/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Robert Hollay 00:32:31 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 03:10:02 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Graham Banks 12:04:52 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Paul Jacobean Sacral 01:10:11 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Rolf Tueschen 02:45:02 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Uri Blass 02:33:56 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Ryan B. 01:35:26 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Paul Jacobean Sacral 01:42:23 12/24/05
        
        Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Ryan B. 02:17:58 12/24/05
    - Forgiveness and a thanks Albert Silver 03:36:07 12/23/05
      - Re: Forgiveness and a thanks Greg Simpson 09:13:00 12/23/05
        
        Re: Forgiveness and a thanks Ryan B. 12:26:10 12/23/05
      - Re: Forgiveness and a thanks gerold daniels 05:41:18 12/23/05
      - Re: I support this posting 100%! (n.t.) Paul Jacobean Sacral 03:38:27 12/23/05
    - Re: A Possible Explanation For The TOGA Affair Robert Hollay 03:24:01 12/23/05
  - Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:18:52 12/23/05
    - Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Rolf Tueschen 02:27:14 12/23/05
      - Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:43:13 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Tord Romstad 06:08:26 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Roger Brown 08:24:27 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Roger Brown 08:15:10 12/23/05
        
        Re: Programmer's opinions abut "closed source" wanted. Uri Blass 03:27:47 12/23/05
- Re: Thanks again for this (useless) Discussion Greg Simpson 00:55:53 12/23/05
  - 2005 Review (dark side) Heli Weigel 01:29:23 12/23/05
Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Uri Blass 21:44:26 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Peter Kappler 23:14:33 12/22/05
  - Re: Fruit is based on Toga Paul Jacobean Sacral 01:30:37 12/23/05
    - Re: Fruit is based on Toga Ryan B. 02:23:07 12/23/05
      - Re: Fruit is based on Toga Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:57:55 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Uri Blass 03:13:13 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Joost Buijs 07:31:44 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Paul Jacobean Sacral 03:21:54 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Uri Blass 03:42:21 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Ryan B. 03:28:28 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Paul Jacobean Sacral 04:01:00 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Andrew Williams 06:14:49 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Uri Blass 06:31:12 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Tord Romstad 05:31:13 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga No Ryan B. 04:14:25 12/23/05
        
        Re: Ryan B. says "Toga had nothing to do with Fruits progress." Paul Jacobean Sacral 04:20:29 12/23/05
        
        Re: Ryan B. says "Toga had nothing to do with Fruits progress." Ryan B. 04:32:32 12/23/05
        
        Re: Ryan B. says "Toga had nothing to do with Fruits progress." Uri Blass 04:50:14 12/23/05
        
        Re: Fruit is based on Toga Paul Jacobean Sacral 02:59:32 12/23/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Uri Blass 23:39:46 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Robert Hollay 23:38:28 12/22/05
    - Sorry! It's Thomas and not Joachim....sorry ... Robert Hollay 23:40:16 12/22/05
Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Paul Jacobean Sacral 21:02:05 12/22/05
Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Zappa 19:54:01 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Joseph Ciarrochi 20:40:38 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Graham Banks 20:04:30 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Jonas Cohonas 21:03:47 12/22/05
    - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Joseph Ciarrochi 22:11:29 12/22/05
Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Ryan B. 19:48:52 12/22/05
- Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Greg Simpson 20:33:40 12/22/05
  - Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde Joseph Ciarrochi 20:46:20 12/22/05
in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Joseph Ciarrochi 19:43:35 12/22/05
- Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Ryan B. 19:54:21 12/22/05
  - Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Graham Banks 19:58:22 12/22/05
    - Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Ryan B. 20:12:53 12/22/05
      - Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Claude Le Page 01:07:58 12/23/05
        
        Re: in all fairness, toga performs differently from fruit 2.2. Ryan B. 03:15:17 12/23/05

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