Author: Graham Banks
Date: 19:58:22 12/22/05
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On December 22, 2005 at 22:54:21, Ryan B. wrote: >On December 22, 2005 at 22:43:35, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote: > >> >>I am very respectiful of the creator of fruit 2.2. and the way he has influenced >>programing. Having said that, it looks to me that toga is similar to fruit, but >>also clearly distinguishable from fruit in terms of how it evaluats a postion. >> >> Check out the stats here : >>http://kd.lab.nig.ac.jp/chess/cegt/engine-distance-table-best-300.shtml >> >> >>Unforutnately, there are no head to head comparisons of fruit and toga, but you >>can look at how similar they are when competing against the same engine. For >>example, togas evaluations are more similar to ktula 7.5 evaluations than >>fruits. >> >>this is not definitive reasoning, unfortunately. Fruit went comericial between >>version 2.1 and 2.2, and the new code was no longer public access. maybe the >>observed differences are due to what was added in 2.2. i.e., maybe fruit 2.1 >>is almost identifical to toga, but 2.2 is quite different? any data on this? >> >>best >>Joseph >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On December 22, 2005 at 22:15:18, Peter Kappler wrote: >> >>>On December 22, 2005 at 20:33:50, Zappa wrote: >>> >>>>A different view: >>>> >>>>Hydra, too weak to show at Paderborn >>>>Zappa, the best thing since sliced bread >>>>Fruit, proving once again that KISS works. >>>>Toga II, the clone of fruit with literally 50 lines changed that people somehow >>>>credit as a real engine >>> >>>And isn't it true the the author of Toga initially tried to claim that the code >>>was 100% his? It's beyond me why anybody recognizes Toga as a distinct engine. >>>It sounds like it contains about as much original work as a Chessmaster >>>personality. >>> >>>-Peter >>> >>> >>>>Rybka, an interesting and totally different approach that seems to work real >>>>well >>>> >>>>anthony > > >Toga is a more tactical less positional version of Fruit 2.1. Very little >change in actual personality beyond that. > >Ryan Hi Ryan, how would you classify your Gambit Fruit compared to Fruit 2.1 and Toga? Graham.
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