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Subject: Re: 2005 Review(new,Hydra,Zappa,Fruit,Toga,Rybka)vs(Junior,Fritz,Shredde

Author: Joseph Ciarrochi

Date: 20:46:20 12/22/05

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This does sound very suspect. I am curious. How can you tell if one engine is a
clone of the other (with some modifications), without the source code?

best
Joseph


On December 22, 2005 at 23:33:40, Greg Simpson wrote:

>When the searchable database went online, I went back and looked at the earliest
>posts about Toga, since I was curious about what had happened.  While some of
>the discussion apparently took place on a German forum, the essence of what
>happened here was:
>
>Toga was privately submitted for testing without source (bad, but easily
>forgivable once corrected).  I didn't see anyone say that it was explicitly
>claimed to be independently developed, but by at least by omission it implicitly
>was.  When exposed, the claimed reason for the deception was that no one would
>test Toga if they knew the truth.  This was very bad, as he was intentionally
>defrauding the testers of their time.  Thomas posted a humble apology and
>published the source, which pretty much ended the matter (because what more
>could be asked for?), but didn't mean that everyone forgave him.
>
>Others have felt that the real reason that Thomas chose to hide the close
>relation to Fruit was to take the credit for himself.  I myself am willing to
>believe Thomas' stated reason, but really I don't think it matters much either
>way, ethically speaking.



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