Author: Uri Blass
Date: 21:44:26 12/22/05
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On December 22, 2005 at 22:15:18, Peter Kappler wrote: >On December 22, 2005 at 20:33:50, Zappa wrote: > >>A different view: >> >>Hydra, too weak to show at Paderborn >>Zappa, the best thing since sliced bread >>Fruit, proving once again that KISS works. >>Toga II, the clone of fruit with literally 50 lines changed that people somehow >>credit as a real engine > >And isn't it true the the author of Toga initially tried to claim that the code >was 100% his? I do not remember such claim. Did he claim that he wrote 100% of the code? There is a difference between claiming nothing and claiming that the code is 100% your code. I am also not sure if you can say about open source code that they are 100% original code. nalimov tablebases are not original code and even if you ignore tablebases there are many non chess related things when programmers simply copy code from another source I am sure that you can see one of the following lines in many source codes. 1)#include <cstdio> 2)#include <stdio.h> Note that I did not know about alternative 1 before looking at fruit's source and I guess that they are equivalent(I do not get errors if I replace one of the cases when I use 2 by 1. You can correct me if I am wrong because it is only a guess and I do not know much about c(big part of what I know is based on looking at other sources and unlike most of the other programmers of chess engines I almost never study programming at university and I studied mainly mathematics). I would like to know if there is an advantage for fruit code relative to my code because it seems that everything that fabien does is better than what I do. It's beyond me why anybody recognizes Toga as a distinct engine. >It sounds like it contains about as much original work as a Chessmaster >personality. > >-Peter This is clearly wrong. Changing code of source program is clearly more original work than changing personality of chessmaster. You do not need to have knolwedge about programming in order to change personality of chessmaster but you need to understand something in fruit in order to change the code without bugs. Uri
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