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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 first results - Harry Schnapp test suite 440 used

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 02:46:42 12/23/05

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On December 22, 2005 at 19:10:33, Harry Schnapp wrote:

>On December 22, 2005 at 18:42:22, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 2005 at 18:32:49, Heinz van Kempen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 22, 2005 at 18:22:05, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 22, 2005 at 16:48:39, Heinz van Kempen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ROTFL! This suite can only can be called weird. I could name several examples
>>>>>>where one side has a big advantage.
>>>>>>The 50 Noomen positions are way better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not agree, because I watched many games. I can´t see anything weird in it >In Nunn Suite 2 you have position 14 which in many games leads to quick
>>>>>threefold repetition. I also used this one in former times.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards
>>>>>Heinz
>>>>There are lots of crappy opening lines in H.Schnapp 440 Suite.
>>>>You can hardly deny this.
>>>>
>>>>Many strange openings like 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. g3 d5 4. e3, 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6
>>>>3. Qc2, 1.d4 Sf6 2.c4 e6 3.f3 etc.
>>>>
>>>>and also outright blunders:
>>>>
>>>>[Event "EventX"]
>>>>[Site "SiteX"]
>>>>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "PlayerY"]
>>>>[Black "PlayerX"]
>>>>[Result "*"]
>>>>[ECO "B32"]
>>>>[PlyCount "18"]
>>>>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>>>>
>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 e6 4. d4 d6 5. g4 h6 6. h4 a6 7. Bg2 Be7 8. Be3 Nxd4
>>>>9. Nxd4 cxd4 *
>>>>
>>>>5.g4??
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>
>>>Hi Michael,
>>>
>>>maybe that you do not like many positions personally. But that is not the point.
>>
>>No, there are definitely many lines a master would never play.
>>
>  Nice "argument": "many lines a master ´would never play ????"
>  Fantasy critics in computerchess.More does not give to commentate it.
>    Harry.

Why should engines rated 2700-2800 play the openings from <2000 players????

Michael



>
>
>
>>Michael
>>
>>>They have to be appropriate for engine vs. engine matches, not for humans. Every
>>>position (when out of line) is tested with Shredder 9, known for good evalution.
>>>
>>>Most positions are from Encyclopedia A by the way and there are some rare ones,
>>>what is intended. Harry wrote to me his thoughts about this and for me it was
>>>convincing. I could send to you more info via email.
>>>
>>>Of course when there is critics Harry will try to improve, like he always does.
>>>
>>>Best Regards
>>>Heinz



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