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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 first results - Harry Schnapp test suite 440 used

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:16:48 12/23/05

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On December 22, 2005 at 18:08:28, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On December 22, 2005 at 15:04:22, Graham Banks wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 2005 at 14:43:12, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On December 22, 2005 at 06:03:49, Heinz van Kempen wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Uri,
>>>>
>>>>the advantage with Harry´s suite is that all lines are handpicked and tested by
>>>>Harry Schnapp, who is by the way a very good chess player. They are chosen with
>>>>many considerations and not only put togehter more or less randomly. I mean you
>>>>can also compose a book by just taking MegaBase or something like that, give
>>>>average opposition ELO of 2600 and set some weights. Even I could do this. This
>>>>is exactly what Harry does not. He evalutated each single line and tested it to
>>>>make sure that there is no big advantage for one side.
>>>
>>>ROTFL! This suite can only can be called weird. I could name several examples
>>>where one side has a big advantage.
>>>The 50 Noomen positions are way better.
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>
>>Post some examples please.
>>
>>Graham.
>
>Sure
>
>Michael
>
>[Event "EventX"]
>[Site "SiteX"]
>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "PlayerY"]
>[Black "PlayerX"]
>[Result "*"]
>[ECO "B20"]
>[PlyCount "18"]
>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. c4 g6 3. d3 Bg7 4. f4 d6 5. h3 Nc6 6. Nf3 e6 7. Nc3 Nge7 8. g4 h5
>9. gxh5 Rxh5 *

I searched this position in the CEGT database and it seems unbalanced based on
the results.

black scored

+22 -7 =4 in this opening

I did not do statistical analysis of the rating of the opponents but even if
black was better in average it does not justify this big score.




>
>[Event "EventX"]
>[Site "SiteX"]
>[Date "2005.10.27"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "PlayerX"]
>[Black "PlayerY"]
>[Result "*"]
>[ECO "D30"]
>[PlyCount "17"]
>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>
>1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. e3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. a3 Be7 6. Nbd2 O-O 7. b3 b6 8. Bb2 Ne8
>9. Bd3 *
>
>[Event "EventX"]

Here white won 12-7 with 9 draws.
not significant result.

>[Site "SiteX"]
>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "PlayerX"]
>[Black "PlayerY"]
>[Result "*"]
>[ECO "B20"]
>[PlyCount "16"]
>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. c4 d6 3. Ne2 Nc6 4. d4 Bd7 5. Nbc3 g6 6. d5 Ne5 7. Ng3 Bg7 8. Be2
>h5 *

Here the result is 8-8 and 6 draws.

I may check later the rest of the positions.

Uri



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