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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 first results - Harry Schnapp test suite 440 used

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 05:50:20 12/23/05

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On December 23, 2005 at 06:56:55, Albert Silver wrote:

>>>Hi Michael,
>>>
>>>maybe that you do not like many positions personally. But that is not the point.
>>
>>No, there are definitely many lines a master would never play.
>>
>>Michael
>
>I haven't looked at the positions, so won't comment on them.
>
>The fact is that players of ALL levels, the majority of them (99% and more) who
>are not 2200+ players, will be analyzing and going over their games with the
>engines. Since they aren't masters, the positions they analyze are those from
>their non-master openings. That actually means that it far more sense to see how
>well the engines analyze these non-master positions than the latest wrinkle of
>Sicilian theory at move 22, which a very small minority of the players will be
>playing.

I'm sorry, the discussion is not about analysis. It is about test games.
If you test with unbalanced positions or book lines the weaker engine might
score 1/2 or 0.5/2 instead of 0/2.

Michael

>Just because the Closed Sicilian, King's Indian Attack, or the Colle

Btw, these are all openings which were played by master players.
Nobody would play this position with white

[D]rnbqk1nr/pp2ppbp/3p2p1/2p5/2P1PP2/3P3P/PP4P1/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 5

or this position with black

[D]r1bqkbnr/pp3ppp/2npp3/2p5/3PP3/2N2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQKB1R w KQkq - 0 5



 are
>uncommon or rare at master and above level, doesn't mean they are played
>infrequently, and if the engines can't help the <2000 players find great moves
>in them, then their usefulness as an analytical engine is severely reduced IMO.
>
>                                          Albert



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