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Subject: Re: Beta-Testers

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 22:38:55 12/24/05

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On December 24, 2005 at 13:29:16, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have observed that people are busy in testing Rybka like bees produce their
>honey. From 50 years ago I still know for sure that as a Beta-tester you get a
>free thing of the tested software. Now my simple question. If you testers had to
>pay to the author of Rybka, why in hell you still are testing this commercial
>product. Is it masochism or something I dont know yet?
>
>I must admit that it's a fair deal to test a program like Crafty, but Crafty is
>Free Software. So, it's like LINUX. But why the same people who spit on
>Microsoft and who would never test MS products do now test a commercial program
>for free.
>
>Could someone clarify this? Or is it the truth that you all get 50 US $$ for
>your testing? Or 100$$?
>
>
>WHAT is the deal?

Rolf

I'm not an offical beta tester -- I paid for the Rybka opreview  -   I'm
interested in using Rybka Preview because :

A:  It appears to be a significant new standard in chess programming - from my
perspective , Vas is using "tricks" that no one has ever used before to see to
see solutions very difficult positions much earlier in the search.  Tricks
meaning his program is doing "something" no other program is doing - it's
searching far less nodes than most programs -- and beating them conclusively.

It's almost like he is using something that Deip preached for all those years --
but was able to do much better more efficient implementation.

B. As a user, it's in our oown best interest to report bugs when the programmer
has indicated a willingness to accpet them and correct them.  A win-win
situation.

C.  I make it a habit of buying most of the top programs even when I generally
don't use them much to help support our chess programmers financially.  In the
dedidicatd world - we're essentially down to two companies - Saitek and
Excalibur aqnd real noticisbale improvements have been very rare.  The limited
Resurection is exciting thing happening in the dedicated world.   Chess software
would not make s much progress if we were only down to chess programmers.

I'm sure other users and testers have their own reasons.

Also - for many of us that run engine tournaments - running engine tournaments
is fun  - not a chore. We just simply enjoy it.

Merry Christmas and all the best to you.

Michael



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