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Subject: Re: Last SSDF Rating List

Author: James Robertson

Date: 09:49:12 03/29/99

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On March 29, 1999 at 04:21:03, blass uri wrote:

>
>On March 29, 1999 at 04:10:18, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>
>>On March 29, 1999 at 02:22:48, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On March 28, 1999 at 14:29:45, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>>  THE SSDF RATING LIST 1999-03-28   65604 games played by  190 computers
>>>>>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>>>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>>>   1 Chessmaster 6000  64MB P200 MMX         2576   88   -71   100   78%  2363
>>>>>   1 Fritz 5.32  64MB P200 MMX               2576   29   -28   627   66%  2457
>>>>>   3 Hiarcs 7.0  64MB P200 MMX               2567   28   -27   676   63%  2471
>>>>>   4 Nimzo 99  64MB P200 MMX                 2565   37   -35   390   63%  2472
>>>>>   5 Fritz 5.0 PB29%  67MB P200 MMX          2564   24   -23   946   67%  2436
>>>>>   6 Junior 5.0  64MB P200 MMX               2543   30   -29   576   63%  2447
>>>>>   7 Hiarcs 6.0  48MB P200 MMX               2524   25   -25   802   57%  2473
>>>>>   8 Nimzo 98  57MB P200 MMX                 2523   24   -23   899   59%  2459
>>>>>   9 Rebel 9.0  46MB P200 MMX                2522   25   -24   843   62%  2437
>>>>>  10 Rebel 8.0  46MB P200 MMX                2507   31   -30   533   58%  2448
>>>>>  11 MChess Pro 6.0  41MB P200 MMX           2506   28   -28   637   57%  2453
>>>>>  12 MChess Pro 7.1  42MB P200 MMX           2505   24   -24   834   56%  2460
>>>>>  13 Shredder 2.0  57MB P200 MMX             2502   25   -25   765   55%  2464
>>>>>  14 Genius 5.0 DOS  44MB P200 MMX           2495   24   -23   883   56%  2449
>>>>>  15 MChess Pro 8.0  64MB P200 MMX           2481   30   -29   560   53%  2456
>>>>
>>>>Why is the number in the last column < 2400 for CM6K and > 2400 for everything
>>>>else?
>>>>bruce
>>>
>>>Because it played the following opponents where some have a low rating:
>>>
>>> 1 Chessmaster 6000  64MB P200 MMX, 2576
>>>
>>>Fritz532 P200      2-1     Hiarcs7 P200X    0.5-1.5   Junior5 P200X      2-0
>>>MCP 8 P200MMX      1-1     Rebel 8.0 P90    9.5-7.5   Rebel 9.0 P90      1-0
>>>Hiarcs 6 P90    16.5-5.5   Geniu4 486/66    8.5-2.5   Fritz 3.0 P90    1.5-0.5
>>>Fritz3 486/66     19-1     SPARC 20 MHz      16-2
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Mr. Faber,
>>
>>Just as I suspected!!!!  Sounds like a con-job to me.  CM6000 IS NOT worthy of
>>the first place position..  Play the #$#%%# games with equal processors or don't
>>even waste our time.  There is nothing useful here.  Ninety two of the games out
>>of one hundred were played on vastly inferior hardware.
>
>only 91 out of 100
>
>  And Mike Tyson can beat
>>up my little sister too.
>
>Rating in chess is based on games between not equal players and chessmaster6000
>won 5.5:3.5 in the games against p200MMX programs and only lost elo because of
>games against weaker opponents.
>
>If you win Rebel8(p90) 9.5:7.5 then you lose elo.
>
>Chessmaster is one of the top programs.
>
>I am not sure that is the best(there are not enough games to say) but you cannot
>decide that chessmaster does not deserve number 1 because of the fact that it
>played against weaker opponents.
>
>Chessmaster did 78% when Fritz532 did 66%.
>They have the same rating because the calculation of the rating considered the
>fact that chessmaster played against weaker opponents.
>
>Uri

Well said.

James



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