Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 07:29:20 12/27/05
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On December 27, 2005 at 10:22:28, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 27, 2005 at 10:12:57, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: > >>On December 27, 2005 at 09:05:43, Greg Simpson wrote: >> >>>On December 27, 2005 at 08:44:18, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On December 27, 2005 at 08:36:24, JNoomen wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi all, >>>>> >>>>>It's quite possible that the computerchess lists show something like this at the >>>>>end of the year: >>>>> >>>>>1. Rybka 32-bit >>>>>2. Fruit 2.2.1 >>>>>3. Fritz 9 >>>>>4. Shredder 9 >>>>>5. Hiarcs 10 >>>>> >>>>>Now suppose we enter Hydra and Zappa in these lists. Condition: they both play >>>>>on the SAME hardware as the above 5. So no program has a hardware advantage. All >>>>>programs use their own book. >>>>> >>>>>Now comes the poll question: where do you think that Hydra and Zappa will be in >>>>>the list given above? >>>> >>>>hydra cannot run on the same hardware and this was explained in the past also by >>>>chrilly. >>>> >>>>He said that there are things that are cheap for hydra but very expensive if he >>>>tries to do it on the same hardware that most use and that there are things that >>>>are expensive for software on Normal PC so he even did not try to do it in Nimzo >>>>but cheap for hydra. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Of course it should be possible to emulate Hydra's FPGAs in software, and it >>>wouldn't surprise me if the Hydra team already has that for testing. I would >>>expect Hydra to be by far the worst program listed in that situation. >> >> >>I would expect Chrilly Donninger to have improved his "basic" program much >>further and it is surely way above the old Nimzo. Thus I would expect it to be >>on a par, if not even better, with the leading pack. >> >>Naturally, we are only speculating. >> >> >>Djordje > >The question is not if Chrilly could improve nimzo but what is the strength of >hydra if it is emulated in software. > >It is possible that in that case hydra could search only 1000 nodes per second. > >Uri That's exactly what I had in mind. I believe that a "simple" PC version (FPGA emulation) of Hydra is probably equal in strength to the top pack (first 3 or 4 programs). Just my "gut feeling", but a strong gut feeling. Djordje
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