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Subject: Re: Another poll: strength of Zappa and Hydra

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:29:22 12/27/05

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On December 27, 2005 at 08:44:18, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 27, 2005 at 08:36:24, JNoomen wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>It's quite possible that the computerchess lists show something like this at the
>>end of the year:
>>
>>1. Rybka 32-bit
>>2. Fruit 2.2.1
>>3. Fritz 9
>>4. Shredder 9
>>5. Hiarcs 10
>>
>>Now suppose we enter Hydra and Zappa in these lists. Condition: they both play
>>on the SAME hardware as the above 5. So no program has a hardware advantage. All
>>programs use their own book.

all programs a X2 with 2 cores overclocked @ 2.7Ghz and 2 hydra cards
inside, just like that testmachine they use in abu dhabi:

1. Rybka 64 bits
2. Zappa 64 bits
3. Fruit 32 bits
4. Hiarcs 10
5. Shredder9
6. Fritz9


99. Hydra

You know, without 64 processors, having 2 hardware cards which are development
cards at just 60Mhz or so, that has simply zero chance against software.

those fpga boards have been made to *develop* chips, not to use them as release
processors. released fpga hardware runs at near 1Ghz, not 60Mhz!!

So hydra at 1Ghz would surely be a good match for the software, but at 60Mhz,
no chance, really. fpga development boards weren't designed to be used as
production hardware :)

Vincent



>>Now comes the poll question: where do you think that Hydra and Zappa will be in
>>the list given above?
>
>hydra cannot run on the same hardware and this was explained in the past also by
>chrilly.
>
>He said that there are things that are cheap for hydra but very expensive if he
>tries to do it on the same hardware that most use and that there are things that
>are expensive for software on Normal PC so he even did not try to do it in Nimzo
>but cheap for hydra.
>
>Uri



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