Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:46:55 12/27/05
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On December 27, 2005 at 11:37:18, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >On December 27, 2005 at 11:33:40, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 27, 2005 at 11:22:36, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote: >> >>>On December 27, 2005 at 09:28:02, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>I wonder why the fruit operator agreed to early draw against isichess. >>>> >>>>public Fruit evaluates the final position as more than +3 for white >>>> >>>[...] >>> >>>Hello Uri, >>> >>>I think you should accept this handling by the operator, because: >>> >>>1. You don't have the same Hardware >>> >>>2. You don't have the same version and you don't know the changes. >>> >>>3. You don't see IsiChess score and you're not in the hall (live). >>> >>>4. You can't only compare Fruit 2.2.1 analyses (missed IsiChess here). >>> >>>If you really completly disagree with the draw maybe ask Fabien if you could >>>overtake the operator part of Fruit :) >>> >>>Best, >>>Daniel >> >>You are right but >>I do not claim that fruit could win but only that it had practical chances to >>win and I am disappointed from the fact that the game did not continue(operators >>could not know the future moves of the game without playing them and if we >>ignore winning on time only draw and win for white seem to be possible) >> >>I also do not claim that the computer moves that I give are forced. >> >>Uri > >It was a clear draw. To continue such a game is not very gentle. It is a happy >day that you are not a operator in paderborn. > >TL > >TL It is not clear to me that white could not push black into some zugzwang that force black to trade pawns. Maybe in the final position white does not have enough moves to do it but I would like to understand some logical proof that black can draw. Note that I also need a proof that white cannot sacrifice the f pawn and improve the position and later win the pawn e5. I am not convinced that the final position is objectively drawn(it may be a draw or a win for white and I simply do not claim to know). Uri
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