Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:13:49 12/27/05
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On December 27, 2005 at 09:04:28, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 27, 2005 at 08:56:56, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 27, 2005 at 08:41:04, Thomas Logan wrote: >> >>>On December 27, 2005 at 08:38:18, Thomas Logan wrote: >>> >>>>[Event "Blitz:110'"] >>>>[Site "Uni-Paderborn"] >>>>[Date "2005.12.27"] >>>>[Round "?"] >>>>[White "Fruit 05/11/03"] >>>>[Black "Isichess"] >>>>[Result "*"] >>>>[ECO "A13"] >>>>[PlyCount "234"] >>>>[TimeControl "6600"] >>>> >>>>1. c4 Nf6 2. Nf3 >>>>e6 3. g3 c6 4. Nc3 d5 5. d3 dxc4 6. dxc4 Qxd1+ 7. Kxd1 Bc5 8. Bh3 b6 9. b3 Ba6 >>>>10. a4 Bb7 11. Rf1 Na6 12. Kc2 Nb4+ 13. Kb2 h6 14. Bf4 O-O 15. a5 b5 16. Bg2 >>>>bxc4 17. bxc4 Ba6 18. Kb3 Be7 19. Rfd1 g5 20. Be5 c5 21. Nb5 Bb7 22. a6 Nxa6 23. >>>>Nd6 Rab8 24. Nb5 Rbd8 25. Rxd8 Rxd8 26. Bc3 Rb8 27. Ne5 Bxg2 28. Rxa6 Ne4 29. >>>>Nc6 Rb7 30. Nxe7+ Rxe7 31. f3 Nxc3 32. Kxc3 Kg7 33. Kd3 Bh3 34. Rc6 Rd7+ 35. Ke3 >>>>g4 36. Rxc5 gxf3 37. Kxf3 a5 38. Rc8 Rd2 39. Ke3 Rc2 40. Kd3 Rc1 41. Nc3 Rh1 42. >>>>c5 Rxh2 43. c6 Rg2 44. Ne4 f5 45. Nf2 Rxf2 46. c7 f4 47. Rg8+ Kxg8 48. c8=Q+ Kf7 >>>>49. Qc7+ Kg6 50. gxf4 Bg4 51. e3 a4 52. Qc1 Bf5+ 53. Kd4 Re2 54. Qd1 Rb2 55. >>>>Qxa4 Rd2+ 56. Kc5 Re2 57. Qd4 Kf7 58. Kd6 Re1 59. Qd2 Rb1 60. Kc5 Rb7 61. Qe2 >>>>Bg6 62. e4 Rd7 63. Qb5 Rd8 64. Qb7+ Kg8 65. Qb6 Re8 66. f5 Bf7 67. f6 e5 68. Qb2 >>>>Kh7 69. Qf2 Be6 70. Qh2 Bf7 71. Qh3 Re6 72. Qf5+ Kh8 73. Kb5 Be8+ 74. Kc4 Bf7 >>>>75. Kc5 Kg8 76. Qg4+ Kf8 77. Qg7+ Ke8 78. Qxh6 Kd7 79. Kb5 Ke8 80. Qg5 Kd8 81. >>>>Qg7 Ke8 82. Qh8+ Kd7 83. Ka5 Rc6 84. Qh3+ Ke8 85. Qf5 Re6 86. Kb4 Kd8 87. Qf1 >>>>Rc6 88. Ka5 Rd6 89. Kb5 Kd7 90. Qf5+ Re6 91. Qf2 Ke8 92. Qh4 Kd8 93. Kb4 Kd7 94. >>>>Qg4 Kd8 95. Qg7 Ke8 96. Qh8+ Kd7 97. Kb5 Rd6 98. Qh3+ Kd8 99. Qf5 Re6 100. Qg5 >>>>Ke8 101. Ka4 Kd7 102. Qg7 Ke8 103. Qh8+ Kd7 104. Qh4 Rc6 105. Qh3+ Ke8 106. Qh6 >>>>Kd7 107. Qd2+ Rd6 108. Qf2 Ke8 109. Qh4 Re6 110. Ka5 Kd7 111. Qf2 Ke8 112. Qf5 >>>>Kd8 113. Qg5 Ke8 114. Kb4 Kd7 115. Qd2+ Ke8 116. Qh6 Kd7 117. Ka5 Rc6 * >>>> >>>> >>>>[d] 8/3k1b2/2r2P1Q/K3p3/4P3/8/8/8 w - - 0 118 >>>> >>>>Tom >> >>Fruit with all the 5 piece tablebases does not agree to a draw in the final >>position >> >>Evaluation is more than 3 pawns for white >> >>Fruit 05/11/03 - Isichess, Blitz:110' Uni-Paderborn 2005 >>[D]8/3k1b2/2r2P1Q/K3p3/4P3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1: >> >>118.Qd2+ Rd6 >> +- (3.29) Depth: 1/6 00:00:03 >>118.Qd2+ Rd6 119.Qf2 >> +- (2.97) Depth: 2/6 00:00:03 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 >> +- (3.00) Depth: 2/6 00:00:03 >>118.Qg5 Rc5+ 119.Kb6 >> +- (3.04) Depth: 2/7 00:00:03 >>118.Qg7 Rc5+ 119.Kb4 >> +- (3.06) Depth: 2/8 00:00:03 >>118.Qg7 Rc5+ 119.Kb4 Rc4+ 120.Kb5 >> +- (3.15) Depth: 3/8 00:00:03 >>118.Qg7 Ke8 119.Qg3 Rxf6 120.Qxe5+ Re6 >> +- (3.14) Depth: 4/10 00:00:03 >>118.Qg5 Kd6 119.Qe3 Rc5+ 120.Kb4 >> +- (3.22) Depth: 4/11 00:00:03 >>118.Qg5 Ke6 119.Kb5 Rc2 120.Kb4 >> +- (3.19) Depth: 5/14 00:00:03 >>118.Kb5 Rc2 119.Qh3+ Ke8 120.Qe3 Bc4+ 121.Kb4 >> +- (3.22) Depth: 5/14 00:00:03 >>118.Kb5 Rc2 119.Qh3+ Kc7 120.Qe3 Rb2+ 121.Ka5 Ra2+ 122.Kb4 Rb2+ 123.Kc5 >> +- (3.24) Depth: 6/14 00:00:03 31kN >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qh3+ Kc7 121.Qf3 Rb6+ 122.Ka4 Rb8 >> +- (3.23) Depth: 7/19 00:00:03 64kN >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qh3+ Kc7 121.Qf5 Kd6 122.Kb5 Rc5+ 123.Kb4 >> +- (3.16) Depth: 8/20 00:00:03 103kN, tb=2 >>118.Qg5 Ke6 119.Qf5+ Kd6 120.Qf2 Rc5+ 121.Kb4 Rc4+ 122.Kb5 Rd4 123.Qf3 Bc4+ >>124.Kb6 >> +- (3.30) Depth: 8/20 00:00:04 139kN, tb=2 >>118.Qg5 Ke6 119.Qf5+ Kd6 120.Qf2 Rc5+ 121.Kb4 Rc4+ 122.Kb5 Rd4 123.Qf3 Kc7 >>124.Kc5 >> +- (3.29) Depth: 9/24 00:00:04 207kN, tb=2 >>118.Qg5 Ke6 119.Qf5+ Kd6 120.Qf2 Rc5+ 121.Kb4 Rc4+ 122.Kb5 Rd4 123.Ka5 Kc6 >>124.Qf5 Kd6 >> +- (3.22) Depth: 10/24 00:00:04 320kN, tb=2 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Ke8 121.Qg5 Rc4+ 122.Ka5 Rxe4 123.Qf5 Rc4 >>124.Qxe5+ Kf8 125.Qe7+ Kg8 >> +- (3.30) Depth: 10/24 00:00:04 584kN, tb=2 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Ke8 121.Qg5 Rc4+ 122.Ka5 Rxe4 123.Qf5 Rc4 >>124.Qxe5+ Kf8 125.Qe7+ Kg8 126.Kb5 >> +- (3.26) Depth: 11/26 00:00:04 810kN, tb=2 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Kc7 121.Qg5 Kd6 122.Qe3 Ke6 123.Qf3 Rc7 >>124.Qf2 Rb7+ 125.Kc3 >> +- (3.31) Depth: 12/28 00:00:05 1406kN, tb=3 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Kc7 121.Qf2 Kd8 122.Kb5 Kd7 123.Qa7+ Rc7 >>124.Qb8 Be6 125.Qf8 Rb7+ 126.Kc5 Rc7+ 127.Kb4 >> +- (3.29) Depth: 13/30 00:00:06 2325kN, tb=7 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Kc7 121.Qf2 Kd8 122.Kb5 Rd6 123.Qf3 Kd7 >>124.Qg4+ Kd8 125.Qg7 Ke8 126.Kc5 >> +- (3.28) Depth: 14/33 00:00:08 3383kN, tb=23 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Kc7 121.Qf2 Kd8 122.Kb5 Rd6 123.Kc5 Kc7 >>124.Qf5 Re6 125.Qg5 Rc6+ 126.Kb5 Bc4+ 127.Kb4 >> +- (3.28) Depth: 15/34 00:00:09 5002kN, tb=42 >>118.Kb5 Bc4+ 119.Kb4 Bf7 120.Qd2+ Kc7 121.Qf2 Kd8 122.Ka5 Ke8 123.Qh4 Rd6 >>124.Kb5 Kd7 125.Qg4+ Kd8 126.Qg7 Ke8 127.Kc5 >> +- (3.28) Depth: 16/36 00:00:15 9858kN, tb=140 >>118.Kb5 Re6 119.Qh3 Ke8 120.Kc5 Rxf6 121.Qc8+ Ke7 122.Qc7+ Kf8 123.Qxe5 Kg7 >>124.Qg3+ Rg6 125.Qc3+ Kg8 126.e5 Be6 127.Qf3 Kg7 128.Qc6 Rh6 129.Qg2+ Kf7 >> +- (2.93) Depth: 17/42 00:00:45 40116kN, tb=547 >>118.Qg5 Ke6 119.Qf5+ Kd6 120.Qf2 Ke6 121.Kb5 Rc7 122.Qb6+ Kd7 123.Ka5 Be6 >>124.Qe3 Bc4 125.Qf3 Ra7+ 126.Kb6 Ra6+ 127.Kb7 Ke8 128.f7+ Kf8 129.Qf2 >> +- (3.16) Depth: 17/42 00:00:58 55882kN, tb=729 >>118.Qg5 Ke6 119.Qf5+ Kd6 120.Qf2 Ke6 121.Kb5 Rc7 122.Kb6 Rc3 123.Qf1 Ra3 124.Kc5 >>Be8 125.Qf5+ Kf7 126.Qh7+ Kxf6 127.Qf5+ Ke7 128.Qxe5+ Kf8 129.Kd4 Ra2 130.Qc5+ >>Kg7 >> +- (2.97) Depth: 18/46 00:01:35 98044kN, tb=1446 >>118.Qh8 Rc5+ 119.Kb6 Rc3 120.Qg7 Rb3+ 121.Kc5 Ke6 122.Qh8 Rc3+ 123.Kb4 Rf3 >>124.Qd8 Rxf6 125.Kc5 Bg6 126.Qd5+ Ke7 127.Qxe5+ Re6 128.Qc7+ Kf6 129.Qf4+ Ke7 >>130.Qg5+ Ke8 131.e5 >> +- (3.01) Depth: 18/46 00:01:47 112322kN, tb=1820 >>118.Qh8 Rc5+ 119.Kb6 Rc3 120.Qg7 Rb3+ 121.Kc5 Ke6 122.Qh8 Rc3+ 123.Kb4 Rf3 >>124.Qd8 Rxf6 125.Kc5 Bg6 126.Qd5+ Ke7 127.Qxe5+ Re6 128.Qc7+ Ke8 129.e5 Bf5 >>130.Qc8+ Kf7 131.Qb7+ Re7 132.Qd5+ Re6 >> +- (3.04) Depth: 19/46 00:01:59 123368kN, tb=2464 >>118.Qh8 Rc5+ 119.Kb6 Rc3 120.Qg7 Rb3+ 121.Kc5 Ke6 122.Qh8 Rc3+ 123.Kb4 Rf3 >>124.Qd8 Rxf6 125.Kc5 Bg6 126.Qd5+ Ke7 127.Qxe5+ Re6 128.Qg5+ Ke8 129.Qd5 Bf7 >>130.Qa8+ Ke7 131.Qb7+ Kf8 132.Qb8+ Kg7 >> +- (3.04) Depth: 20/46 00:02:21 143902kN, tb=3771 >> >>(, 27.12.2005) > >I think that more moves are needed to decide about a draw > >You can see that the main line lead to trading the pawns(white f6 and black e5) >and it is possible that after it fruit can get 6 piece endgame that it can win(I >did not check tablebases) > >More analysis give higher score for white and if the operators agreed to a draw >only because of many moves with no progress then it is clearly wrong > > >118.Qh8 Rc5+ 119.Kb6 Rc3 120.Qg7 Rb3+ 121.Kc5 Ke6 122.Qf8 Kxf6 123.Qd8+ Kg7 >124.Qg5+ Kf8 125.Qxe5 Rb1 126.Qd6+ Kg7 127.e5 Rc1+ 128.Kb4 Rc4+ 129.Ka3 Re4 >130.Kb2 Re1 131.Qf6+ Kg8 132.Qf3 Rg1 > +- (3.07) Depth: 22/49 00:04:35 242505kN, tb=11814 > >(, 27.12.2005) I let it run for a good while with Crafty using 6 man files. No progress being made. I don't really see a plan for white to make any significant progress. Obviously the KRB vs KQ is a dead draw... So trading pawns away is not an idea. The white king isn't going to be able to force its way in with the black rook locking it out..
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