Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 05:01:34 12/28/05
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On December 28, 2005 at 07:53:46, Eelco de Groot wrote: >Hello Sandro, Hi, 39...Qe3 is winning even if there are still maybe some 20 moves to go. Of course black can improve earlier as out of book did not play the best moves either. Ciao Sandro > >No idea myself if Shredder could have won it or what is really the best move but >here is just some computer-analysis with Gambit Fruit 4bx of the position (two >best moves) > >Best(18ply): 00:14:17.5 1,51 18 571429388 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 >h5 Kc2 h4 Bxh4 g3 Rd3 Qg4 Bd8 >2nd(18ply): 00:14:17.5 1,04 18 743093252 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 >Bd4 Qd3 Rd5 h5 Re5+ Kf7 Rd5 h4 Bc5 Qf3 Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Rxa6 h3 Ra7 g4 Bd6 > >Best at 19 ply: >00:25:32.2 1,68 19 1080744749 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Bf2 Ke8 >Ka3 Qg6 Bg3 Ke7 Rc5 Kf8 >2nd at 19 ply: >00:25:32.2 1,08 19 1326075870 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Kc4 f3 Bc5 Qf5 >Rd6+ Kf7 Bf2 Qc8+ Kd3 h5 Nd5 g4 Rf6+ Kg7 > > Eelco > >[D]3R4/5k2/p6p/4Bpp1/8/1KN4q/1P6/8 b - - 3 1 > >00:00:00.0 0,57 1 149 f4 >00:00:00.0 0,29 1 305 Qe3 >00:00:00.0 0,69 2 631 f4 Kb4 >00:00:00.0 0,29 1 305 Qe3 >00:00:00.0 0,69 2 631 f4 Kb4 >00:00:00.0 0,31 2 862 Qe3 Rd7+ Kg6 >00:00:00.0 0,78 3 1305 f4 Kb4 f3 >00:00:00.0 0,31 2 862 Qe3 Rd7+ Kg6 >00:00:00.0 0,78 3 1305 f4 Kb4 f3 >00:00:00.0 0,53 3 2148 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 >00:00:00.0 0,83 4 4760 f4 Rd6 a5 Bd4 >00:00:00.0 0,53 3 2148 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 >00:00:00.0 0,83 4 4760 f4 Rd6 a5 Bd4 >00:00:00.0 0,53 4 6731 Qe3 Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Re6 >00:00:00.0 0,83 4 4760 f4 Rd6 a5 Bd4 >00:00:00.0 0,68 4 7898 Ke7 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 >00:00:00.0 0,91 5 13516 f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bh8 h5 Rxa6 >00:00:00.0 0,68 4 7898 Ke7 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 >00:00:00.0 0,91 5 13516 f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bh8 h5 Rxa6 >00:00:00.0 0,48 5 17114 Ke7 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 >00:00:00.1 0,91 5 13516 f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bh8 h5 Rxa6 >00:00:00.1 0,74 5 20523 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 >00:00:00.1 0,88 6 30080 f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 Rf6+ Kg7 Rd6+ Kg8 >00:00:00.1 0,74 5 20523 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 >00:00:00.1 0,88 6 30080 f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 Rf6+ Kg7 Rd6+ Kg8 >00:00:00.1 0,75 6 39036 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg6 >00:00:00.2 0,80 7 73776 f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Nd5 >00:00:00.2 0,75 6 39036 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg6 >00:00:00.2 0,81 7 90771 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Bc5 Qe6 >00:00:00.2 0,75 6 39036 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg6 >00:00:00.2 0,81 7 90771 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Bc5 Qe6 >00:00:00.2 0,80 7 100280 f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Nd5 >00:00:00.3 0,83 8 137852 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg8 Kc2 h5 >00:00:00.3 0,80 7 100280 f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Nd5 >00:00:00.4 0,83 8 137852 Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg8 Kc2 h5 >00:00:00.4 0,77 8 219551 f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Bb6 Qh4 Bxa5 >00:00:00.6 0,86 9 393120 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8 >00:00:00.6 0,77 8 219551 f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Bb6 Qh4 Bxa5 >00:00:01.0 0,92 9 675340 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 >00:00:01.0 0,86 9 393120 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8 >00:00:01.2 0,96 10 830214 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7 >Ra7+ Kf6 >00:00:01.2 0,86 9 393120 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8 >00:00:01.4 0,96 10 830214 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7 >Ra7+ Kf6 >00:00:01.5 0,86 10 1027937 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8 >00:00:01.8 0,94 11 1314778 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7 >Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7 >00:00:01.8 0,86 10 1027937 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8 >00:00:02.9 1,00 11 2211290 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc4 Bc5 f3 >00:00:02.9 0,94 11 1314778 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7 >Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7 >00:00:03.7 0,99 12 2899023 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Kd2 f3 Re5 Qg4 >Kd3 >00:00:03.7 0,94 11 1314778 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7 >Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7 >00:00:05.0 1,03 12 3965267 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Rd6 >00:00:05.0 0,94 11 1314778 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7 >Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7 >00:00:05.2 1,03 12 3965267 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Rd6 >00:00:05.2 0,99 12 4119140 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Kd2 f3 Re5 Qg4 >Kd3 >00:00:09.2 1,22 13 7355024 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Kc4 Qe6+ >Kd3 h3 >00:00:09.2 0,99 12 4119140 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Kd2 f3 Re5 Qg4 >Kd3 >00:00:11.9 1,22 13 7355024 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Kc4 Qe6+ >Kd3 h3 >00:00:11.9 1,00 13 9692711 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Re5+ Kf7 >Ke3 Qd7 Ne4 >00:00:19.0 1,29 14 15825321 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Ra8 h3 Rh8+ Kg4 >00:00:19.0 1,00 13 9692711 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Re5+ Kf7 >Ke3 Qd7 Ne4 >00:00:22.2 1,29 14 15825321 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Ra8 h3 Rh8+ Kg4 >00:00:22.2 0,97 14 18635337 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Ke3 Qg2 >Rf5 g4 Ne4 >00:00:50.3 1,38 15 43065970 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4 >00:00:50.3 0,97 14 18635337 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Ke3 Qg2 >Rf5 g4 Ne4 >00:00:59.9 1,38 15 43065970 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4 >00:00:59.9 0,96 15 51481966 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Rc5 Kg6 >Ne4 g4 Rc7 h5 >00:01:44.3 1,41 16 90524136 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4 Kc2 >00:01:44.3 0,96 15 51481966 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Rc5 Kg6 >Ne4 g4 Rc7 h5 >00:02:10.7 1,41 16 90524136 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5 >Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4 Kc2 >00:02:10.7 0,92 16 113663252 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3 >Ke4 Qg4+ Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5 >00:07:09.2 1,46 17 371445675 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 h5 Kc2 Qg6+ Kd2 g4 >Bc5 g3 Rd7+ Ke8 Re7+ Kd8 Ne4 >00:07:09.2 0,92 16 113663252 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3 >Ke4 Qg4+ Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5 >00:07:48.5 1,46 17 371445675 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 h5 Kc2 Qg6+ Kd2 g4 >Bc5 g3 Rd7+ Ke8 Re7+ Kd8 Ne4 >00:07:48.5 0,92 17 405808493 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3 >Ke3 Qg4 Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5 >00:10:57.2 1,51 18 571429388 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Kc2 h4 Bxh4 >g3 Rd3 Qg4 Bd8 >00:10:57.2 0,92 17 405808493 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3 >Ke3 Qg4 Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5 >00:14:17.5 1,51 18 571429388 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Kc2 h4 Bxh4 >g3 Rd3 Qg4 Bd8 >00:14:17.5 1,04 18 743093252 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd5 h5 Re5+ Kf7 Rd5 h4 Bc5 Qf3 >Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Rxa6 h3 Ra7 g4 Bd6 >00:20:47.3 1,68 19 1080744749 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Bf2 Ke8 >Ka3 Qg6 Bg3 Ke7 Rc5 Kf8 >00:20:47.3 1,04 18 743093252 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd5 h5 Re5+ Kf7 Rd5 h4 Bc5 Qf3 >Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Rxa6 h3 Ra7 g4 Bd6 >00:25:32.2 1,68 19 1080744749 f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Bf2 Ke8 >Ka3 Qg6 Bg3 Ke7 Rc5 Kf8 >00:25:32.2 1,08 19 1326075870 Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Kc4 f3 Bc5 Qf5 >Rd6+ Kf7 Bf2 Qc8+ Kd3 h5 Nd5 g4 Rf6+ Kg7
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