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Subject: Re: Game Rybka-Shredder ended draw (Old PGN and Diagram)

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 08:23:27 12/28/05

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Sandro, I'll take your word for it that Black is winning :) Right now Qe3 is
coming a little closer in the evaluation of Gambit Fruit to f4, f4 is falling
just a bit. I'd like to go to 22 ply but hash is long since full, it will
probably take a while.. (BTW, OT, I read below a thread that there were once
computations done that doubling hash will add 5 to 8 elopoints, Stuart
suggesting those are USCF points :), but does this not very much depend on
timecontrol and hash quantity? It might be an interesting idea for testing this
again with modern hardware and programs, if somebody is willing to invest much
hardware time..)

Best move(21 ply):
02:04:26.1	1,77	21	509156624	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Rd5 Ke6 Bg7 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Kxd5 Kc2 h5 Bh6
f3 Kd2 g4 Ke3 h4 Bf4 h3 Bc7 Ke6 Kf2 Kf5 Bd6

2nd move (21 ply):
02:04:26.2	1,23	21	2233027617	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Bc5 Qc7 Re8+
Kf5 Rf8+ Kg4 Kc4 Qc6 Rd8 h5 Rd6 Qg2 b3 h4 Re6

 Eelco

00:00:00.0	0,57	1	149	f4
00:00:00.0	0,29	1	305	Qe3
00:00:00.0	0,69	2	631	f4 Kb4
00:00:00.0	0,29	1	305	Qe3
00:00:00.0	0,69	2	631	f4 Kb4
00:00:00.0	0,31	2	862	Qe3 Rd7+ Kg6
00:00:00.0	0,78	3	1305	f4 Kb4 f3
00:00:00.0	0,31	2	862	Qe3 Rd7+ Kg6
00:00:00.0	0,78	3	1305	f4 Kb4 f3
00:00:00.0	0,53	3	2148	Qe3 Bd4 Qd2
00:00:00.0	0,83	4	4760	f4 Rd6 a5 Bd4
00:00:00.0	0,53	3	2148	Qe3 Bd4 Qd2
00:00:00.0	0,83	4	4760	f4 Rd6 a5 Bd4
00:00:00.0	0,53	4	6731	Qe3 Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Re6
00:00:00.0	0,83	4	4760	f4 Rd6 a5 Bd4
00:00:00.0	0,68	4	7898	Ke7 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4
00:00:00.0	0,91	5	13516	f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bh8 h5 Rxa6
00:00:00.0	0,68	4	7898	Ke7 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4
00:00:00.0	0,91	5	13516	f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bh8 h5 Rxa6
00:00:00.0	0,48	5	17114	Ke7 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2
00:00:00.1	0,91	5	13516	f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bh8 h5 Rxa6
00:00:00.1	0,74	5	20523	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4
00:00:00.1	0,88	6	30080	f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 Rf6+ Kg7 Rd6+ Kg8
00:00:00.1	0,74	5	20523	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4
00:00:00.1	0,88	6	30080	f4 Rd6 Qe3 Bd4 Qd2 Rf6+ Kg7 Rd6+ Kg8
00:00:00.1	0,75	6	39036	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg6
00:00:00.2	0,80	7	73776	f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Nd5
00:00:00.2	0,75	6	39036	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg6
00:00:00.2	0,81	7	90771	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Bc5 Qe6
00:00:00.2	0,75	6	39036	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg6
00:00:00.2	0,81	7	90771	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Bc5 Qe6
00:00:00.2	0,80	7	100280	f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Nd5
00:00:00.3	0,83	8	137852	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg8 Kc2 h5
00:00:00.3	0,80	7	100280	f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Nd5
00:00:00.4	0,83	8	137852	Qe3 Bd4 Qe7 Rd5 f4 Rf5+ Kg8 Kc2 h5
00:00:00.4	0,77	8	219551	f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Bb6 Qh4 Bxa5
00:00:00.6	0,86	9	393120	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8
00:00:00.6	0,77	8	219551	f4 Rd6 f3 Bd4 a5 Rf6+ Ke8 Bb6 Qh4 Bxa5
00:00:01.0	0,92	9	675340	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4
00:00:01.0	0,86	9	393120	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8
00:00:01.2	0,96	10	830214	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7
Ra7+ Kf6
00:00:01.2	0,86	9	393120	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8
00:00:01.4	0,96	10	830214	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7
Ra7+ Kf6
00:00:01.5	0,86	10	1027937	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8
00:00:01.8	0,94	11	1314778	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7
Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7
00:00:01.8	0,86	10	1027937	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc6 Rf5+ Kg8
00:00:02.9	1,00	11	2211290	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Re5 Qc4 Bc5 f3
00:00:02.9	0,94	11	1314778	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7
Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7
00:00:03.7	0,99	12	2899023	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Kd2 f3 Re5 Qg4
Kd3
00:00:03.7	0,94	11	1314778	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7
Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7
00:00:05.0	1,03	12	3965267	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Rd6
00:00:05.0	0,94	11	1314778	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kg7
Ra7+ Kf6 Ra6+ Ke7
00:00:05.2	1,03	12	3965267	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Rd6
00:00:05.2	0,99	12	4119140	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Kd2 f3 Re5 Qg4
Kd3
00:00:09.2	1,22	13	7355024	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Kc4 Qe6+
Kd3 h3
00:00:09.2	0,99	12	4119140	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 Kf7 Kd2 f3 Re5 Qg4
Kd3
00:00:11.9	1,22	13	7355024	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Kc4 Qe6+
Kd3 h3
00:00:11.9	1,00	13	9692711	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Re5+ Kf7
Ke3 Qd7 Ne4
00:00:19.0	1,29	14	15825321	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Ra8 h3 Rh8+ Kg4
00:00:19.0	1,00	13	9692711	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Re5+ Kf7
Ke3 Qd7 Ne4
00:00:22.2	1,29	14	15825321	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Ra8 h3 Rh8+ Kg4
00:00:22.2	0,97	14	18635337	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Ke3 Qg2
Rf5 g4 Ne4
00:00:50.3	1,38	15	43065970	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4
00:00:50.3	0,97	14	18635337	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Qh3 Ke3 Qg2
Rf5 g4 Ne4
00:00:59.9	1,38	15	43065970	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4
00:00:59.9	0,96	15	51481966	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Rc5 Kg6
Ne4 g4 Rc7 h5
00:01:44.3	1,41	16	90524136	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4 Kc2
00:01:44.3	0,96	15	51481966	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Rc5 Kg6
Ne4 g4 Rc7 h5
00:02:10.7	1,41	16	90524136	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Bf2 h5 Rxa6 h4 Ra7+ Kg6 Ra6+ Kh5
Rd6 h3 Rd5 Qf4 Kc2
00:02:10.7	0,92	16	113663252	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3
Ke4 Qg4+ Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5
00:07:09.2	1,46	17	371445675	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 h5 Kc2 Qg6+ Kd2 g4
Bc5 g3 Rd7+ Ke8 Re7+ Kd8 Ne4
00:07:09.2	0,92	16	113663252	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3
Ke4 Qg4+ Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5
00:07:48.5	1,46	17	371445675	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 h5 Kc2 Qg6+ Kd2 g4
Bc5 g3 Rd7+ Ke8 Re7+ Kd8 Ne4
00:07:48.5	0,92	17	405808493	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3
Ke3 Qg4 Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5
00:10:57.2	1,51	18	571429388	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Kc2 h4 Bxh4
g3 Rd3 Qg4 Bd8
00:10:57.2	0,92	17	405808493	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke8 Bd4 Qe6+ Rd5 f4 Kc2 f3 Kd3 Kf7 Re5 Qh3
Ke3 Qg4 Kd3 Qg2 Rf5+ Kg6 Rf6+ Kh5
00:14:17.5	1,51	18	571429388	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Kc2 h4 Bxh4
g3 Rd3 Qg4 Bd8
00:14:17.5	1,04	18	743093252	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd5 h5 Re5+ Kf7 Rd5 h4 Bc5 Qf3
Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Rxa6 h3 Ra7 g4 Bd6
00:20:47.3	1,68	19	1080744749	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Bf2 Ke8
Ka3 Qg6 Bg3 Ke7 Rc5 Kf8
00:20:47.3	1,04	18	743093252	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd5 h5 Re5+ Kf7 Rd5 h4 Bc5 Qf3
Rd7+ Kg6 Rd6+ Kh5 Rxa6 h3 Ra7 g4 Bd6
00:25:32.2	1,68	19	1080744749	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bf2 g4 Bg3 h5 Bf2 Ke8
Ka3 Qg6 Bg3 Ke7 Rc5 Kf8
00:25:32.2	1,08	19	1326075870	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Kc4 f3 Bc5 Qf5
Rd6+ Kf7 Bf2 Qc8+ Kd3 h5 Nd5 g4 Rf6+ Kg7
00:47:32.5	1,84	20	2404029444	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bc5 h5 Ka3 g4 Bf2 Kg6
Kb3 Qe7 Ra5 Qf6 Nd5 Qd6 Bd4
00:47:32.5	1,08	19	1326075870	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Kc4 f3 Bc5 Qf5
Rd6+ Kf7 Bf2 Qc8+ Kd3 h5 Nd5 g4 Rf6+ Kg7
01:05:05.8	1,84	20	2404029444	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Bd4 f3 Rd5 Qe6 Bc5 h5 Ka3 g4 Bf2 Kg6
Kb3 Qe7 Ra5 Qf6 Nd5 Qd6 Bd4
01:05:05.9	1,16	20	3339830673	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Kc4 f3 Bc5 Qf5
Rd6+ Kf7 Rd8 Kg6 Rg8+ Kh5 Rf8 Qe6+ Nd5 Qe2+ Kc3 Qe5+ Kc4 Qe4+ Bd4 Qc2+ Kb4
01:32:07.5	1,77	21	509156624	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Rd5 Ke6 Bg7 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Kxd5 Kc2 h5 Bh6
f3 Kd2 g4 Ke3 h4 Bf4 h3 Bc7 Ke6 Kf2 Kf5 Bd6
01:32:07.5	1,16	20	3339830673	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Kc4 f3 Bc5 Qf5
Rd6+ Kf7 Rd8 Kg6 Rg8+ Kh5 Rf8 Qe6+ Nd5 Qe2+ Kc3 Qe5+ Kc4 Qe4+ Bd4 Qc2+ Kb4
02:04:26.1	1,77	21	509156624	f4 Rd6 Qf5 Rd5 Ke6 Bg7 Qxd5+ Nxd5 Kxd5 Kc2 h5 Bh6
f3 Kd2 g4 Ke3 h4 Bf4 h3 Bc7 Ke6 Kf2 Kf5 Bd6
02:04:26.2	1,23	21	2233027617	Qe3 Rd7+ Ke6 Bd4 Qd3 Rd8 f4 Bb6 Qh7 Bc5 Qc7 Re8+
Kf5 Rf8+ Kg4 Kc4 Qc6 Rd8 h5 Rd6 Qg2 b3 h4 Re6



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