Author: Stuart Cracraft
Date: 11:16:34 12/28/05
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On December 28, 2005 at 02:09:32, Jürgen Ecker wrote: >On December 27, 2005 at 14:04:11, Stuart Cracraft wrote: > >>On December 27, 2005 at 00:51:50, Jürgen Ecker wrote: >> >>>Hi Stuart, >>> >>>the vBulletin sorts the most recently replied thread by default to the top, so >>>the newest and current thread is always the first you see. I think this is a >>>good feature, because you see very fast what's the current discussion at the >>>board. You also mustn't search for the current discussion. >>>But there is also a hack for sorting the threads in other ways, like the date of >>>the threadbeginning. So it will be represented like in the CCC. >>> >>>Of course there is the problem, that some users will try to bump their threads >>>to the top, but this will be an issue for moderation. I would handle it in a way >>>of warning this user. If a user has an specified level of warning he will be >>>baned for some time or forever. >>> >>>The troll problem can be solved by the 'global ignore user'-function. This works >>>like this: the troll posts and his posting will be seen by himself, but not by >>>the other users, so they can't and won't reply on his posting. After several >>>times he will mention, that his posting are not interesting and he will go away. >>> >>>Jürgen Ecker >>> >>>>Jürgen, >>>> >>>>Does vBulletin push the most-recently replied-to thread to the top of >>>>the physical screen? >>>> >>>>Stuart >> >>I do like the push-recent-to-top but perhaps an anti-troll feature would >>be to push-most-heavily-posted-recently to top? That way trolls couldn't >>get the delight of pushing any thread to the top. They'd have to overpost >>on a single thread and that would reveal their true troll-like nature. >> >>So say a thread has 30 posts already. A post to it would increase it by >>3.33%. Let's say the threshold is 10%. So actually 3 posts within a period >>of N would be required for it to push to the top. >> >>One thought... >> >>Greetings, >> >>Stuart > > > >Hi Stuart, > >your thought it quite interesting, but I never saw such a function for boards. >I moderated some boards over the years and in my opinion the best way against >trolls are clear boardrules AND the consistent use of the rules by the >moderators. >Of course in modern boards there are technical opportunities to ban a troll, >like baning by IP-Number or username and also the 'global ignore user'-function. >You've got also the possibility to close the thread, so nobody could answer the >troll-thread and the most boards now have something like a warning-system and a >system with which the user can rate the thread and the users. >I think that's enough for troll-protection and I would not recommend to much >hacking a boardscript, because of security-issues and it's a lot of work >upgrading the script. And regular updating is very important for preventing the >website against hackers. > >Jürgen Ecker Hi Jürgen, I certainly agree with all you have said. I only wish to add that due to computers making much more administrative overhead requirements for administrators, moderators, and the like, any feature that serves to automate, can be very time-saving and life-improving, hence the idea of pushing to top only the most heavily posted threads as a percentage of total post over period of time. I maintain a lot of large computers at a Global 30 corporation at a tier-1 data center and the effort to automate here is absolutely endless. It gives me an odd viewpoint that some may find a little unhumanlike in that I always seek to automate everything. I find if I don't automate though, the water is constantly rising. Greetings, Stuart
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