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Subject: Re: fruit defeats rybka in endgame test (barely); sune any suggestions?

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 04:08:31 12/29/05

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On December 29, 2005 at 06:08:50, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:

>Sune Larsen caught the first position as being too simple and we have removed it
>from future testing (8/4k3/1p2b1pp/p1p1p3/P1P1P3/1P3P1P/5KB1/8 b - - 0 37)
>
>
>So it sounds liike we need some more complex endgames perhaps? I did expect
>rybka to be worse than it did here.
>
>Sune, any responses to this? I'd be happy to test more compex endings, if you
>generate them?
>
>best
>Joseph


 I suggest we keep these 19 positions and just continue with the games.
 I find them extremly interesting. The point is of course not to specifically
 nail down Rybka's lack of endgame knowledge... Naturally we could then, by and
 by, expand the testsuite with new and more complex endings. That would be
 most interesting of course. They must be carefully chosen though. I also would
 like to know what theme a certain position will test. Maybe Uri has some
 contributions to make...;-) Only negative criticism is of very little value
 though...

 /S




>
>
>On December 29, 2005 at 05:42:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>There are 2 problems with your test:
>>
>>1)position are not balanced and there are cases that only one side can win
>>
>>For example in the following position only white can practically win
>>
>>[D]8/4k3/r4pp1/pR6/P4KP1/5P2/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>[D]8/5b2/1k2p1p1/2NpP1P1/1K1P4/8/8/8 w - - 0 1 "]
>>
>>2)The endgame are too simple and in almost all of them there is a single piece
>>per side when rybka's main problem is before that but in time that is still
>>considered to be an endgame.
>>
>>Uri



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