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Subject: Re: fruit defeats rybka in endgame test (barely)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:57:44 12/29/05

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On December 29, 2005 at 07:47:36, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 29, 2005 at 06:52:22, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On December 29, 2005 at 05:42:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>There are 2 problems with your test:
>>>
>>>1)position are not balanced and there are cases that only one side can win
>>>
>>>For example in the following position only white can practically win
>>
>> I have several times described the reason for having these 11 unbalanced
>> testpositions - and what theme each position tests. I won't do it once more.
>>
>>
>> Now, if you want to share something else than just negativity - or negative
>> criticism - then please present concrete positions as alternatives.
>>
>>
>> /S
>
>I understand the reason that you give them but people cannot get conclusions
>about the difference in program strength in endgame based on the results.
>
>Uri

To be more correct I mean that the conclusion about the rybka-fruit difference
based on the result is simply wrong.

You cannot say based on result like 21-19 that rybka is almost the same strength
as fruit in endgames.


The practical result if we consider only matches of 2 games is 7-5 for fruit and
8 draws that suggest smaller difference than 21-19 and I do not think that
fruit's strong point is simple endgames(it has a problem in fine70).

I will not be surprised if fruit lose in this test against shredder or fritz
inspite of the fact that I believe that fruit is better endgame player than
them.

Uri



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