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Subject: Re: Is Deep Shredder 9 playing on a Power Mac G5 In Paderborn ?

Author: John Dillard

Date: 05:53:23 12/29/05

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Yes and if you assembled your Mac yourself you would save money; if you
assembled your car or built your house you would save money too, but that's not
a fair comparison.  We're not talking about comparing the cost of a factory
built system with a home builit one.  Remember, if frogs had wings they would
fly too.



On December 29, 2005 at 04:32:18, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On December 29, 2005 at 03:34:03, George Sobala wrote:
>
>>On December 29, 2005 at 01:40:17, enrico carrisco wrote:
>>
>>>On December 29, 2005 at 00:13:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is Deep Shredder 9 playing on a Power Mac G5 In Paderborn? If this is the case
>>>>and Deep Shredder win, how many people really use a Mac G5 Machines?
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>It plays on a Quad G5 2.5GHz Mac.
>>>
>>>I do not believe winning Paderborn would persuade computer chess users to switch
>>>to a Mac as they are more expensive than their PC alternatives.
>>
>>Wrong. I have an Apple Quad. Find me 10GHz of PC processing power for less,
>>please.
>
>I was not talking about Quad systems in regards to someone purchasing a new
>chess playing machine based on Paderborn results.  I would assume most would be
>considering single CPU or dual core options as they are more
>reasonable/affordable in price.  I think it is a very special situation in that
>a computer chess enthusiast purchases a quad machine specifically for chess.
>
>Consider the entry level dual core G5 2.3GHz for $2,499.00.  For under $1,400
>you can find a dual core X2 AMD A64 2.4GHz machine (for example:
>http://www.unitedmicro.com/cgi-bin/sysw.cgi?352204314)
>
>As far as your "10GHz of PC processing power", I think you will find that
>compared to an Opteron in chess, you are probably getting 8GHz at best, and
>probably closer to 7.5GHz.  As far as price?  The entry level dual, dual core G5
>2.5GHz is $3,299.00 from Apple.  If you assembled the Opteron system yourself,
>you could spend around the same amount or less.  I didn't search the net for a
>pre-assembled Opteron dual, dual core system but I would imagine that if you
>bargain shopped, you'd be in the same ballpark on price (purchasing like
>components to the G5 setup and using Opteron 275 dual cores at the most, since I
>am quite confident that Opteron 280s would be 20%+ faster...)
>
>I have sent you an email asking for a benchmark of your system.  We should be
>able to nail down a pretty good estimate of the difference between the G5 and
>Opteron for chess after I receive that from you.
>
>Regards,
>
>-elc.



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