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Subject: Re: Rybka future

Author: Dagh Nielsen

Date: 06:16:02 12/29/05

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On December 29, 2005 at 07:03:52, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>>>>
>>>>2. No source is published, thus how should it be 'cloned'?
>>>>
>>>>Guenther
>>>
>>>It can be cloned if the computer of the programmer is defected by some trojan
>>>horse so somebody can steal the source.
>>>
>>>Another way without trojan horse is simply stilling the computer that rybka is
>>>developed in it.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I guess the chance that someone infects your computer with a trojan
>>and steals Moveis source is much higher,
>>than trying the same on Vas' development machine.
>>
>>Why not apply more common sense instead of inflating bandwidth
>>with 'least probability' games, except for funny irony reasons?
>
> If all people were thinking with common sense, then our world would be much
>different and to the worse side....World needs people that think different!
>
>>
>>After hundreds of similar posts they are just not that funny
>>anymore ;) It is not necessary to add all (low probability)
>>circumstances to a Human sentence, as people agreed to use
>>language in a more efficient way. Thus please don't add 'answers'
>>and 'conditions' you can safely assume they know already or are
>>simply far from significance.
>
>You said that since no source is available then how people can find the source?
>And he found 2 possible ways.....That 2 ways had a non-zero chance to happen so
>he did right to mention them....
>
>>

No, in this context it is not right to add inconsequential information with no
merit but to prove formal deficiencies. It can wisely be assumed that every
reader can judge for himself or request further information in case of any
doubts or interest. Neglected, but formally necessary conditionary qualifiers or
corrections are not required or desirable from a sociologic point of view unless
the exclusion of them are feared to instill a fatal semantic misconception in
the unprepared reader. The potential consequences of the latter must be measured
up against the interacting population's wish for a rewarding conversation;
outright negligible formal observations do not entail any emotional rewards for
most readers.

Addendum:

(1) One notes that the abovementioned "context" is not well defined or
unambiguous.

(2) One notes that discussion of "right" and "wrong" is highly conditionary.

(3) One notes that the use of the term "inconsequential" is not formally
correct, but it may be correct when it is interpreted in a looser way based on
observations regarding relevance.

(4) One notes that "relevance" in (3) depends on the eye of the beholder.

(5) One notes that the justification of the terms "no merit", "wisely", "not
required", "desirable", "rewarding" and "wish" likewise depends heavily on the
eye of the beholder.

(6) One notes in general that the linear argumentation presented above probably
ignores several valid objections, of both formal and horizon-widening kind.

Kind regards,
Dagh Nielsen

PS. Did Hydra-Chrilly not describe here how he was able to take a peek at
Rybka's code due to its non-encrypted state? I do not know if he was only able
to look at some more basic form of code and not the actual "source code", and
would be interested if somebody would explain the possible difference.



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