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Subject: Re: Holy Mother...(ending test)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:08:50 12/29/05

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On December 29, 2005 at 12:01:27, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 29, 2005 at 11:48:48, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>Thanks to Joseph who has played 80 games Rybka-F9 and Rybka-Fruit - endgame
>>test. A lot of interesting information has been collected. One could expect good
>>and bad endings by these programs - but maybe not this...
>>
>>[Event "Rybka-Fritz9 NunnE 40 4'"]
>>[Site "Wollongong"]
>>[Date "2004.12.30"]
>>[Round "28.1"]
>>[White "Fritz 9"]
>>[Black "Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[Annotator "1.06;0.29"]
>>[SetUp "1"]
>>[FEN "6k1/2p3np/1p1p2p1/3P4/1PPK1R2/6PB/7P/4r3 w - - 0 1"]
>>[PlyCount "11"]
>>[EventDate "2005.12.28"]
>>
>>{GenuineIntel 447 MHz W=16.4 ply; 236kN/s; 477 TBAs B=18.4 ply; 65kN/s} 1. Bd7
>>{1.06/13 132} Nh5 {0.29/14 55} 2. Be6+ {(Rf3) 4.03/15 115} Rxe6 {
>>(Kg7) 2.72/16 191} 3. dxe6 {7.12/16 74} Nxf4 {10.00/21 1126} 4. gxf4 {
>>7.02/16 61} Kf8 {9.94/18 23} 5. Kd5 {7.39/16 55} Ke7 {11.03/19 311} 6. b5 {
>>7.58/18 84} 1-0
>>
>>Rybka's first move 1.-Nh5???? is a mega-gross error that loses right on the
>>spot. And showing only a small advantage for white (+0.29). I hope it looks
>>different with faster hardware. Misjudging the pawn endgame or what?
>>
>>/S
>
>Rybka needs depth 18 to find that Nh5 is losing
>After 7 minutes of search it still did not change it's mind.
>
>Fritz 9 - Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit, Rybka-Fritz9 NunnE 40 4' 2005
>[D]6k1/2pB2np/1p1p2p1/3P4/1PPK1R2/6P1/7P/4r3 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:
>
>1...Nh5
>  ±  (0.74)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1...Nh5
>  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3
>  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7
>  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  5kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3
>  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  11kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3
>  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  22kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  52kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Ba4
>  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 10   00:00:00  103kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Re2 Rc1+ 6.Kd3
>  ²  (0.36)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  184kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Re2 h6 6.Ba4
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  380kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Re2 Kf7 6.Be6+
>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 13   00:00:04  947kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Re2 Kf7 6.Be6+
>  ²  (0.29)   Depth: 14   00:00:07  1551kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Rc1+ 5.Kb3 Nf6 6.Re2
>  =  (0.25)   Depth: 15   00:00:16  3288kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Rc1+ 5.Kb3 Nf6 6.Re2
>  =  (0.25)   Depth: 16   00:00:25  5133kN
>1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Re2 Rf1 6.Bb5
>  =  (0.24)   Depth: 17   00:00:49  10104kN
>1...Nh5 2.Be6+ Rxe6 3.dxe6 Nxf4 4.gxf4 h6 5.Kd5 Kf8 6.b5
>  +-  (3.97)   Depth: 18   00:02:15  30129kN
>
>(,  29.12.2005)

Next lines in the analysis


1...Re2 2.Kd3 Re7 3.Bg4 h5 4.Bc8 Rf7 5.Ke3 Re7+ 6.Kf3
  ²  (0.61)   Depth: 18   00:08:11  105113kN
1...Re7 2.Bg4 h5 3.Bf3 Nf5+ 4.Kc3 Re3+ 5.Kd2 Ra3 6.Bxh5
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 18   00:10:43  137450kN
1...Re7 2.Bg4 h5 3.Bf3 Nf5+ 4.Kc3 Re3+ 5.Kd2 Ra3 6.Bxh5
  =  (0.20)   Depth: 19   00:11:03  141845kN

(,  29.12.2005)

For comparison slightly positional shows the following analysis

Fritz 9 - Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit, Rybka-Fritz9 NunnE 40 4' 2005
6k1/2pB2np/1p1p2p1/3P4/1PPK1R2/6P1/7P/4r3 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:

1...Nh5
  ±  (0.74)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Nh5
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1...Nh5 2.Rf3
  ²  (0.63)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  5kN
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  11kN
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  22kN
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  51kN
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Ba4
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 10   00:00:00  103kN
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Re3 Rd1+ 4.Kc3 Nf6 5.Re2 Kf7
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 11   00:00:01  185kN
1...Nh5 2.Rf3 Kg7 3.Ba4 Nf6 4.h4 Kf7 5.Re3 Rc1
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 12   00:00:02  489kN
1...Nh5 2.Be6+ Rxe6 3.dxe6 Nxf4 4.gxf4 c6 5.b5 cxb5 6.cxb5
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 13   00:00:05  1134kN
1...Nh5 2.Be6+ Rxe6 3.dxe6 Nxf4 4.gxf4 h6 5.Kd5 Kf8 6.b5
  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 14   00:00:09  2083kN
1...Re2 2.Kd3 Re7 3.Bg4 h5 4.Bd1 Rf7 5.Ke4 Re7+ 6.Kf3
  ²  (0.60)   Depth: 14   00:00:17  3627kN

(,  29.12.2005)

It seems that vasik believes that these 4 plies are not important(otherwise he
would use slightly positional and not the default personality in the
tournament).

Uri



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