Author: David Mitchell
Date: 13:35:59 12/30/05
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On December 30, 2005 at 08:56:21, K. Burcham wrote: > > >All Programmers 25 or younger please sign up for a Rybka code class. If you are >over 25 and presently own a chess program or write code---PLEASE RETIRE AND DO >NOT POST CODE IDEAS HERE PLEASE. You are tooo expensive for some of us. I am >tired of funding your incorrect approach to writing chess code. > >What about the chess code teachers that thought they had been teaching correct >information? > >What about all the programmers that have been posting here for years that were >out in left field, you know way out on a limb, you know going down the wrong >road? > >What about all the suckers here that have spent $3000 on chess programs that are >sitting on the shelf, that at one time you thought they were strong, at one time >you were posting here kissin some programmers ass with same programmer creating >what today is weak code against Rybka. Dont tell me about CM2000 or Shredder2 >and improvements since---not talking about that----talking about this>They were >all incorrect. What the other programmers were thinking is incorrect, it is >broke, it is incorrect, it is weak, you were wrong, admit it, what you were >thinking was wrong. Dont tell me you are right because you were just trying to >create a 2200 program---bulldung---you were trying to create the strongest you >knew how,,but,,you were wrong. Your logic for writing your code was wrong, weak. >Your hours days months of testing methods was incorrect, broke. > >I put my money in several programmers here and now Rybka shows that my purchases >are very low level. > >Most programmers here thought that code improvements and new ideas would only >increase program elo by very minimum, wrong again. > >It is time for some programmers to retire, thanks for your work over the years >but we must move on to better and correct ideas and stronger programs. > >For the new programmers that still have an open learning hungry mind and not >cocked up about themselves---you have a real oportunity to grasp the new code >approach and run with it. Good Luck. > >For those that have been on stage, time to go home, we do not want to see the >second show. Stop by and say hi once in a while, but please take a seat and >watch the second show. When over, someone will help you to the door. >Heck---maybe someone will actually ask for your autograph. > >still have a little money left, >kburcham Chess is always evolving - in openings, endgame, middlegame nuances. So is computer chess programming. If Kasparov played great, some part of that play was because he had learned from the play of Capablanca, Nimzovich, Morphy, or Tal. Same with the newer programs in CC. They learned from insightful idea's from Donstoy (Kaissa team), Slate, Hyatt, Newell, etc., and now have added good idea's of their own. The older programs weren't "wrong", they just weren't perfect - and neither are the newer programs. As newer programs come along, with still better programming, these "wonders" of the CC world will also fail to measure up, and be seen as weak and "wrong". Whether it happens in a week or 20 years, we don't know - but it will happen, as surely as night follows day. Let's honor the older programs. They brought a lot of enjoyment to the hobby we love, when there wasn't much available, do you remember? There also is no law that says those older programs can't be revised and be quite competitive, and I'm sure several will do just that. The more smart people we have working in the CC field, of whatever age, the better. Having more people working on the same problems, and competing against each other regularly, just gives a real momentum to the whole CC field, don't you think? The more the better, imo. I applaud SMK, Anthony, Fabien, Vas, and all the competitors at Padderborn. There were some terrific games played, by some programs unknown to me, as well as by the favorites. Dave
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