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Subject: Re: So why *does* Fritz beat Crafty?

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 18:57:39 03/30/99

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On March 30, 1999 at 20:42:45, Christopher R. Dorr wrote:

>Again, we come back to exactly what is the question? If the question is 'What is
>the strongest PC-based program out there?' then the answer may be one thing.
>What is the strongest program in the world? Unquestionable Deep Blue. Will you
>disqualify DB from being the strongest because it runs on a machine that cannot
>be afforded? Shall we say 'But if DB was running on a PII 450, then it would
>only be rated xxxx?' If we won't say that, then why should we say that, to judge
>Crafty, we should put it on hardware it is not optimized for.
>
>If we want to say 'What is the strongest PC program running on a commercially
>available single processor system?', then fine...it is an interesting and
>valuable question.
>
>But if the question is 'What is the strongest PC based program?' *period*, then
>a strong case must be made for Crafty running on a quad. There was a person on
>ICC this afternoon, saying he had a Quad Xeon overclocked (to 600+ Mhz), and was
>hitting NPS's in the neighborhood of 2,000,000 (2 million NPS) with Crafty 16.6.
>If this is the case, I'll take this Crafty vs. *any* PC program running on
>anything.
>
>I think, perhaps, we may be looking at this question differently.

You are responding to Uri but you may as well be responding to me with this last
sentence.

You're mixing things up in this post.  You are talking about "the strongest PC
based program", you think.  But what you are really talking about is a chess
system including software and hardware.

I don't have any problem saying that Crafty on a quad 450 would be extremely
strong, but I wouldn't call that a "program", I would call that a "system".

I think that it is very hard to talk to you about this since your comparisons
and your conclusions aren't very typical.

What was the account of the guy with the overclocked Xeon?

bruce



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