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Subject: Re: I wouldn't be "disturbed" in the slightest.

Author: Keith Ian Price

Date: 19:30:27 12/31/05

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On December 31, 2005 at 19:42:44, stuart taylor wrote:

>On December 31, 2005 at 18:43:38, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On December 31, 2005 at 16:07:00, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>Blitz is SO unimportant, to the value of a chess machine, in my opinion.
>>>
>>>If you think you are better at blitz than your computer, or that it has no
>>>useful experience to offer you, when you play it, (compared with what others
>>>give), OK! If you like to analyze a position, but after set-up, you can't
>>>possibly wait more than five more seconds to see what analysis the computer
>>>shows, OK! (I'd hate to think what your opinion is about todays computers, as a
>>>whole!)
>>>But any other reason, I can't see what there is to feel "disturbed" about, if at
>>>slightly longer timings, it is better than any other program around.
>>>
>>>If it was the strongest program only at 20 hours a move, I'd also understand it
>>>might be a bit disturbing. It would not let you think about anything else during
>>>the day!
>>>
>>>But at normal human thought periods, if it gives the best analysis or plays the
>>>best moves for a machine, I don't think anything should be done to compromise
>>>this. If blitz takes away from the above, in any way (and I WOULD be disturbed),
>>>then I'm not concerned about the blitz at all.
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>You are entitled to your opinion so please allow me mine.  I wouldn't care if
>>the engine exploded when reaching 3 minutes on one move.
>>Jim
>
>If you feel THAT strongly, then I would be disturbed too (if a new good engine
>didn't live up to it's standards in blitz, too)!
>(but I was only afraid that programmers should not be bogged down, because of
>blitz, so as not to hurt MY self interests, if it would. e.g. if one year it
>didn't get very strong, but in blitz it was a great success, then the programmer
>might think...anyway, "it's worthy of release because of its blitz".
>But for you, that's just fine!)
>S.Taylor


I think all engines should be released with two versions; one tuned for blitz
and one for tournament. After all there is a WCCC Blitz Tourney now as well, and
using the Blitz version would be good advertising. Make that three
versions--also one for analysis, which would perform a lot more extensions,
which might make it weaker in play, but it would find the solution to most test
positions, and help analyze positions from Grandmaster games.

kp



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