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Subject: Re: I wouldn't be "disturbed" in the slightest.

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 22:25:15 12/31/05

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On December 31, 2005 at 22:30:27, Keith Ian Price wrote:

>On December 31, 2005 at 19:42:44, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On December 31, 2005 at 18:43:38, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On December 31, 2005 at 16:07:00, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>Blitz is SO unimportant, to the value of a chess machine, in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>>If you think you are better at blitz than your computer, or that it has no
>>>>useful experience to offer you, when you play it, (compared with what others
>>>>give), OK! If you like to analyze a position, but after set-up, you can't
>>>>possibly wait more than five more seconds to see what analysis the computer
>>>>shows, OK! (I'd hate to think what your opinion is about todays computers, as a
>>>>whole!)
>>>>But any other reason, I can't see what there is to feel "disturbed" about, if at
>>>>slightly longer timings, it is better than any other program around.
>>>>
>>>>If it was the strongest program only at 20 hours a move, I'd also understand it
>>>>might be a bit disturbing. It would not let you think about anything else during
>>>>the day!
>>>>
>>>>But at normal human thought periods, if it gives the best analysis or plays the
>>>>best moves for a machine, I don't think anything should be done to compromise
>>>>this. If blitz takes away from the above, in any way (and I WOULD be disturbed),
>>>>then I'm not concerned about the blitz at all.
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>You are entitled to your opinion so please allow me mine.  I wouldn't care if
>>>the engine exploded when reaching 3 minutes on one move.
>>>Jim
>>
>>If you feel THAT strongly, then I would be disturbed too (if a new good engine
>>didn't live up to it's standards in blitz, too)!
>>(but I was only afraid that programmers should not be bogged down, because of
>>blitz, so as not to hurt MY self interests, if it would. e.g. if one year it
>>didn't get very strong, but in blitz it was a great success, then the programmer
>>might think...anyway, "it's worthy of release because of its blitz".
>>But for you, that's just fine!)
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>I think all engines should be released with two versions; one tuned for blitz
>and one for tournament. After all there is a WCCC Blitz Tourney now as well, and
>using the Blitz version would be good advertising. Make that three
>versions--also one for analysis, which would perform a lot more extensions,
>which might make it weaker in play,

would really? or just slower?


>but it would find the solution to most test
>positions, and help analyze positions from Grandmaster games.
>
>kp

But if he can only put full efforts into one of them, which should it be? Or
should his efforts be split?



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