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Subject: Re: Is Rybka in reality endgame Expert?!

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 23:53:42 12/31/05

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On December 31, 2005 at 21:17:47, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:

>One possibility is that rybka does not have specific endgame knowledge, but its
>general chess knowledge is quite applicable to the endgame?
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>It seems like rybka is one version away from being the best at analyzing
>endgames? or am i too optimistic?


  Exciting future to come...Rybka is the crowned bullet master from rumours
  I've heard....so relatively better in endings at short time control....
  relatively - compared to other engines.

  But I close my eyes for games in blitz tempo. Two games from the pos 1
  in the suite - 40 moves in 5 minutes - were enough. Rook ending and the
  level of play was...huh... not good...

  With some more 40-games matches, using the endgame suite, we can study more
  details - which engine seems to handle the rook ending best? How about
  the theme "good knight vs bad bishop"? etc. Interesting.


  To keep in mind - or on paper - the following positions are documented and
  verfied *won* for white/black - and highly unbalanced - even if some engines
  don't recognize it...


  Won positions: N:o 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19

  Draw position: N:o 16  (black draws with activity only - 1.- Rd2!)

  Slightly better for black: N:o 20 (the double rook ending by Andersson)

  Unclear position: N:o 18 (the bishop pair vs pair of knights + an extra pawn)


  1-9 are the NunnE positions.


  /S






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>On December 31, 2005 at 17:02:13, Jouni Uski wrote:
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>>I played 60/5 level match from Sune's positions:
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>>1   Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit   0½½0½½½11½½½01100110½0½010½½½½1½½½111½½0  20.5/40
>>2   Fritz 9                 1½½1½½½00½½½10011001½1½101½½½½0½½½000½½1  19.5/40
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>>Hmm?!?!? "No endgame knowledge". Quite modest!
>>
>>Jouni



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