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Subject: Fritz 9, Shredder 9.1, Fruit 2.2.1, Rybka Preview match @ 5min+3 (3.2P4)

Author: Majd Al-Ansari

Date: 01:44:52 01/01/06


I have just finished a 300 game tournament with the top programs at 5 min + 3sec
and I have to say I am extremely impressed with Rybka.  I will post highlights
of the games as soon as I finish my analysis of all the games.  Rybka came way
out on top with Shredder and Fritz 9 comming way behind with Fruit at the
bottom.  This match might have been unfair for Fruit since book used was the
Fritz 9 book.  What is very impressive is that Rybka was able to win so easily
even though it has HUGE gaps in some endgame knowledge.  Mind you it can play
some fantastic endings and beat the best of the best in some endgames.  But in
some endgame positions it plays less than a 1200 elo player.  I am sure that
this will be easily fixed especially since a superb source such as Fruit 2.1 is
available.  My first impressions about Rybka is that with a little more endgame
knowledge, a specially tuned book and a little better time management, Rybka
could be around 50 go 100 elo points even stronger.  I will post why I think
that as soon as I finish my analysis (I am checking all 300 games).  The most
notable thing I noticed is that Rybka plays so fast yet sooooo STRONG.  The
other engines are struggling to figure out the positions yet Rybka seems to play
effortlessly and accurately.  I remember Kramnik mentioning that computers are
good at searching but are terrible at searching in the critical lines.  I think
Rybka is exploiting this somehow.  The way it pushes pawns and plays unbalanced
positions is truly something that will impress even the most seasoned super GM.
It almost seems like a super GM is watching over and telling Rybka which
critical lines it should search instead of wasting cpu cycles on the wrong path.
 If it doesn't find a quick finish through search or things are unclear, it just
adds another move that intuitevely seems strong without really going through all
the consequences of the move.  Somehow it has the intuition to just load more
pressure without really calculating till a huge plus.

I would like to say that Fritz 9 seems to best the most mature engine.  It
immediately realizes a position is drawn while the other software programs think
is won (Rybka is especially notorious for that).  Shredder is also a very well
rounded program and is extremely strong and I think with a better tuned
evaluation will be even stronger.  Fruit 2.2.1 my previous favourite is also a
fantastic engine but seems to play really poorly in positions it does not like
(it needs a tuned book to perform well).  It is just that Rybka is playing a
different type of chess that are just not understandable to the engines out
there today.

If you are impressed with Rybka now, let me warn you .... you ain't seen nothing
yet!



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