Author: James T. Walker
Date: 07:54:00 01/01/06
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On January 01, 2006 at 01:25:15, stuart taylor wrote: >On December 31, 2005 at 22:30:27, Keith Ian Price wrote: > >>On December 31, 2005 at 19:42:44, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On December 31, 2005 at 18:43:38, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On December 31, 2005 at 16:07:00, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>Blitz is SO unimportant, to the value of a chess machine, in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>>If you think you are better at blitz than your computer, or that it has no >>>>>useful experience to offer you, when you play it, (compared with what others >>>>>give), OK! If you like to analyze a position, but after set-up, you can't >>>>>possibly wait more than five more seconds to see what analysis the computer >>>>>shows, OK! (I'd hate to think what your opinion is about todays computers, as a >>>>>whole!) >>>>>But any other reason, I can't see what there is to feel "disturbed" about, if at >>>>>slightly longer timings, it is better than any other program around. >>>>> >>>>>If it was the strongest program only at 20 hours a move, I'd also understand it >>>>>might be a bit disturbing. It would not let you think about anything else during >>>>>the day! >>>>> >>>>>But at normal human thought periods, if it gives the best analysis or plays the >>>>>best moves for a machine, I don't think anything should be done to compromise >>>>>this. If blitz takes away from the above, in any way (and I WOULD be disturbed), >>>>>then I'm not concerned about the blitz at all. >>>>>S.Taylor >>>> >>>>You are entitled to your opinion so please allow me mine. I wouldn't care if >>>>the engine exploded when reaching 3 minutes on one move. >>>>Jim >>> >>>If you feel THAT strongly, then I would be disturbed too (if a new good engine >>>didn't live up to it's standards in blitz, too)! >>>(but I was only afraid that programmers should not be bogged down, because of >>>blitz, so as not to hurt MY self interests, if it would. e.g. if one year it >>>didn't get very strong, but in blitz it was a great success, then the programmer >>>might think...anyway, "it's worthy of release because of its blitz". >>>But for you, that's just fine!) >>>S.Taylor >> >> >>I think all engines should be released with two versions; one tuned for blitz >>and one for tournament. After all there is a WCCC Blitz Tourney now as well, and >>using the Blitz version would be good advertising. Make that three >>versions--also one for analysis, which would perform a lot more extensions, >>which might make it weaker in play, > >would really? or just slower? > > >>but it would find the solution to most test >>positions, and help analyze positions from Grandmaster games. >> >>kp > >But if he can only put full efforts into one of them, which should it be? Or >should his efforts be split? Good point but consider this. If it is good at all 3 then wouldn't that broaden the customer base and increase sales?
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