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Subject: Re: Rybka Experiment with TheKing

Author: Dan Ellwein

Date: 18:27:04 01/01/06

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On January 01, 2006 at 18:18:23, Mike Byrne wrote:

>An interesting experiment -- ran series of matches with Rybka vs TheKIng at
>Sd=1, sd=2, sd=3, up through sd=11, with no book and no pondering.  The results
>are deterministic, ie. they are repeatable, at each level, the games simply
>repeat thenselves -- you really only need to two games -- I ran 2  more  (and 4
>more at sd=1) to ensure they were repeating.
>
>Observations:
>As sd=1 and sd=2, the games were won by black and and were even. Sd=3m Rybka had
>slight avdanatge.  Rybka won both games at sd=4, TheKing won both games at sd=5,
>at that thatpoint where Theking began using more time.
>
>At Sd=6 , the games were split , although TheKing used more time. At sd=7, Rybka
>won the match despite using far less time.
>
>For Sd=8 through sd=11 Rybka won the matches except for sd=9 which was split.
>At theses higher levels, Rybka generally used about 1/5 of time that the King
>used.
>
>In all cases, the matches and games are deterministic and the games began
>repeating after two games.
>

very good Mike, thanks for posting this data...

looks like the key here is 'the more time' taken by The King...

Vaslik has obviously found a way to prune here, trim there, and extend where it
counts...

but still not a bad show for Chessmaster...

Dan

>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score      Th     Ry    S-B
>1: TheKing 3.23             3.0/6  ······ 010101    9.00
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 3.0/6  101010 ······    9.00
>
>6 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=1
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 1 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score    Th   Ry    S-B
>1: TheKing 3.23             2.0/4  ···· 0101    4.00
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 2.0/4  1010 ····    4.00
>
>4 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=2
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 2 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score    Ry   Th    S-B
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 3.0/4  ···· 1=1=    3.00
>2: TheKing 3.23             1.0/4  0=0= ····    3.00
>
>4 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=3
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 3 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score  Ry     Th    S-B
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 4.0/4  ···· 1111    0.00
>2: TheKing 3.23             0.0/4  0000 ····    0.00
>
>6 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=4
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 4 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score    Th   Ry    S-B
>1: TheKing 3.23             4.0/4  ···· 1111    0.00
>2: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 0.0/4  0000 ····    0.00
>
>4 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=5
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 5 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>  Engine                   Score    Th   Ry    S-B
>1: TheKing 3.23             2.0/4  ···· 1010    4.00
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 2.0/4  0101 ····    4.00
>
>4 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=6
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 6 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>  Engine                   Score    Ry   Th    S-B
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 3.0/4  ···· =1=1    3.00
>2: TheKing 3.23             1.0/4  =0=0 ····    3.00
>
>4 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=7
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 7 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score    Ry   Th    S-B
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 3.0/4  ···· =1=1    3.00
>2: TheKing 3.23             1.0/4  =0=0 ····    3.00
>
>4 of 10 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=8
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 8 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>  Engine                   Score    Th   Ry    S-B
>1: TheKing 3.23             2.0/4  ···· 1010    4.00
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 2.0/4  0101 ····    4.00
>
>4 games played / Tournament finished
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=9
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 9 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
>   Engine                   Score    Ry   Th    S-B
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 3.0/4  ···· 1=1=    3.00
>2: TheKing 3.23             1.0/4  0=0= ····    3.00
>
>4 games played / Tournament finished
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=10
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 10 Half moves
>----------------------------------------------------------
> Engine                     Score    Ry   Th    S-B
>1: Rybka v1.0 Preview 2 x64 4.0/4  ···· 1111    0.00
>2: TheKing 3.23             0.0/4  0000 ····    0.00
>
>4 of 4 games played
>Name of the tournament: Rybka TheKing 5 0 Blitz No Book SD=11
>Site/ Country: WIN-64-MB, United States
>Level: 11 Half moves
>
>----------------------------------------------------------



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