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Subject: Re: Freeware stronger than Hiarcs 10 !

Author: Harvey Williamson

Date: 10:07:47 01/02/06

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On January 02, 2006 at 12:22:09, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>On January 02, 2006 at 08:15:50, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 02, 2006 at 07:55:55, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On January 02, 2006 at 04:32:33, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 02, 2006 at 03:17:05, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>22,5-27,5 ... (45 %) ... vs ... Fritz 9
>>>>>>21,0-29,0 ... (42 %) ... vs ... Toga II 1.1.
>>>>>>16,0-34,0 ... (32 %) ... vs ... Rybka 1.0. Beta 32-bit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hiarcs 10 Test
>>>>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/hiarcs10_test.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rating List
>>>>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/rating_list.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Best regards
>>>>>>Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Kurt!
>>>>>
>>>>>I see here that the best "FREE" engine is better than Hiarcs 10.
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best ,
>>>>>Eduard.
>>>>
>>>>Yes - it is interesting :-)
>>>>
>>>>Hiarcs 10 beats F9, S9 and Toga on other test-sites.
>>>>Only Rybka is a problem.
>>>
>>>Can You read?
>>>
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>Hiarcs 10 against:
>>>
>>>22,5-27,5 ... (45 %) ... vs ... Fritz 9
>>>21,0-29,0 ... (42 %) ... vs ... Toga II 1.1.
>>>16,0-34,0 ... (32 %) ... vs ... Rybka 1.0. Beta 32-bit
>>>
>>>All Matches lost.
>>
>>
>>Thorsten Czub wrote
>>"Hiarcs 10 beats F9, S9 and Toga on *other* test-sites."
>
>
>1. Thorsten Czub is a beta tester also no neutral tester in my eyes. Every beta
>tester post the best results of his testing engine! :)
>
>2. I see no games by Thorsten.

Thorsten did not post any games he just said there were 'other' independent test
sites and Uri also pointed this out.

I wonder who has the problem reading? :-)

>
>ED
>
>
>>
>>The meaning of the word other is that he is not talking about your games.
>>
>>looking at the CEGT results I see the following link and results
>>
>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratingall.html#12
>>
>>Shredder 9 ( 2750 ) 62 + 17 = 25 - 20 47.6 %
>>Fritz 9 ( 2776 ) 69 + 26 = 17 - 26
>>Toga II 1.1 ( 2767 ) 38 + 15 = 9 - 14 51.3 % 2775
>>
>>
>>It seems that the result of hiarcs against these programs in the CEGT is close
>>to 50%.
>>
>>Note that results may be influenced by hardware or opening book.
>>
>>In blitz I find the following results in the following link that give hiarcs
>>more than 50% against all of them.
>>
>>
>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/eloblitzall.html#11
>>
>>9 Fritz 9 ( 2784 ) 101 + 34 = 37 - 30 52.0 % 2800
>>18 Shredder 9 ( 2745 ) 30 + 12 = 11 - 7 58.3 % 2809
>>12 Toga II 1.1a ( 2767 ) 31 + 14 = 9 - 8 59.7 % 2839
>>
>>
>>Uri



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