Author: Vincent Lejeune
Date: 00:39:38 01/03/06
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On January 02, 2006 at 20:01:17, stuart taylor wrote: >On January 02, 2006 at 19:47:41, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > >>On January 02, 2006 at 19:10:34, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On January 02, 2006 at 12:29:06, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >>> >>>>On January 02, 2006 at 11:53:20, stuart taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>>In which it clearly seems analytically provable that Spaasky's play was >>>>>faultless, yet extremely hard to see as being so, and is also very deep and >>>>>unclear....except after great and deep analysis. >>>>> >>>>>But as usual, I'm not organised enough to post the position again, although I >>>>>did atleast once before. >>>>> >>>>>Questions are >>>>>1)How long does it take for Rybka to find .....rh1? >>>> >>>>This post show that Rh1 is not the best move, Bxe3 is stronger >>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=346018 >>> >>>This is simply not the strongest move, but is also strong. >>>But Rh1 takes mch longer for computers to find and to fully understand. >>>S.Taylor >> >>I think you're wrong. But, please, post lines to be sure ... > >I would love to. I analyzed these things in great length several times (computer >assisted). But I'm not set up for posting lines at the momment. >But......for what it's worth, I'm confident that if you would do a thorough >computer assisted analysis, you would see for yourself what I mean. (unless you >think you went deeper than I did, but I don't see why you would have done so). >S.T. The link I gave is an anlysis, 11h20 long, with hiarcs 9, it's already a good starting point. Could you improved the 2 best lines ? Hiarcs 9 analyse , 3 best moves, 11h20m of thinking on an amd 2800+ Larssen - Spasski 2kr3r/ppp1qpp1/2p5/2b2b2/2P1pPP1/1P2P1p1/PBQPB3/RN2K1R1 b Q - 0 1 Analysis by Hiarcs 9: 1. -+ (-9.66): 1...Fxe3 2.Cc3 Ff2+ 3.Rd1 Fxg1 4.Dc1 e3 5.gxf5 Txd2+ 6.Dxd2 exd2 7.Rc2 Fd4 8.Fd3 De3 9.Td1 Th2 10.b4 Dxf4 2. -+ (-5.78): 1...Th1 2.Txh1 g2 3.Tg1 Dh4+ 4.Rd1 Dh1 5.Dc1 Dxg1+ 6.Rc2 Dxc1+ 7.Fxc1 Fd7 8.Fa3 g1D 9.Fxc5 >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>2)And how long does it take to find .....h4? >>>>>3)BUT, DOES it ever find the move before, which is .....h5? >>>>>4)Then, finally, DOES it ever find (before that)......Ng4? >>>>> >>>>>I'm sorry I didn't put up the moves again, but anyone who is familiar with it >>>>>will readily find the position I'm refering to. >>>>> >>>>>CY maybe you can ask Jack to put it up! >>>>> >>>>>For questions 3 and 4, I wouldn't consider it extreme to give Rybka 5 hours >>>>>each. But even if it finds answer to q.2 with answer tro q.1 in its analysis, >>>>>within only a few minutes, that would also be very good. >>>>>S.Taylor
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