Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 10:29:29 03/31/99
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On March 31, 1999 at 07:29:05, blass uri wrote: > >On March 31, 1999 at 05:56:51, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On March 30, 1999 at 19:32:05, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>>Ed from Rebel realised this and cut his price in half. He can see the way the >>>>market is. And since he will not allow the SSDF to rate his program, I think he >>>>is even in a worse position. >>>An interesting remark. Cutting the cost of the program may not drive sales the >>>way that Ed would like. And a rating of computer verses computer that has a >>>different program a few points higher will drive a buy decision. Is that the >>>only reason that people buy chess programs? So that they can beat a different >>>chess program 5% more often? >> >>Most of us want the strongest program for best analysis. And the only hint to >>get the information, which program is the strongest, is the SSDF list, at least >>for most of the (computer) chess interested. >>SSDF IS a very important list that increases or decreases the number of sales. >>I'd bet that the sold copies of MCP decreased since v.6 because v7. and v.8 are >>rated lower than 6.0. I clearly remember questions WHY MCP8 is weaker than MCP7 >>and 6. These questions were only referring to the SSDF list as if this list is >>the only one and the only true list and reflects the overall strength. >>So we can see the big significance of this SSDF list. And I doubt that Ed has >>disadvantage not to be present in that list. Because I doubt that Rebel10 would >>be rated in the TOP 5 which probably would harm the sales. > >The problem is that you cannot trust the autoplayer for Dos programs > >Ed told us here that he played Rebel10 against MCP8 and found strange results of >something like 19:2 for Rebel(I am not sure if I remember the exact result). > >He found that the problem was the autoplayer and MCP8 did mistakes that it does >not do without the autoplayer. I have played 3-4000 games with Rebel6-Rebel9 and never seen anything suspicious. I also have about 1000 games with different Mchess and everything looks ok. I have also played a lot of manual games and it is easy to see that there is no difference at all. If mr Schroeder is correct it must be some kind of problem with Rebel10. He had also published several hundred games that he played with Rebel8 and Rebel9 and never claimed that it was something wrong with them. He also promised to release a auto-player for Rebel10 but now he says it will never appear. I hope that he can fullfill his promise, and release an auto-player for Rebel10 when he releases his new program. I have bought Rebel10 with that promise in mind. Bertil >I do not think that the ssdf list is important. > >The most popular program is chessmaster and not because it was in the ssdf >list. > >I believe that most of the buyers do not know about the ssdf list. > >Uri
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