Author: emerson tan
Date: 01:43:53 01/04/06
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On January 04, 2006 at 04:01:01, Dann Corbit wrote: >On January 04, 2006 at 00:31:42, emerson tan wrote: > >>On January 03, 2006 at 23:54:47, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote: >> >>>Let's assume that you have tournments against the top humans and you have rybka, >>>fruit 2.2., shredder, fritz9, and hiarcs 10 all running on a single processor >>>computer (a good one) >>> >>>Let's further assume that the humans do not know they are playing computers and >>>do not use an anticomputer style. >>> >>>Where would these five engines rate in the list of GMs? Would they be at the >>>super gm level? Or would they barely beat master level players? >>> >>>best >>>Joseph >> >>If an IM or even a master knows its a computer, then will just play to draw and >>the machine's rating will be pulled down. there are a lot of IM and masters who >>can force a draw > >But if the super GM cannot win, then the computer is at his/her level. > >Imagine 1000000 games between super GMs and computers with every game a draw. >The super GMs and the computers have the same rating. > >So the question is, can the super GMs, even with 1000 practice games, beat the >programs consistently (or in some manner get the lion's share of the points). >If not, then the computers have reached even that level. As jeff sonas mentioned before, programs get high rating when they play against higher humans but the rating goes down when playing lower rated opponents. The matches between kasparov and computer and kramnik and computers were draws so the computers get the humans rating which were high. If you play them with nemeth, nementh will lose majority of the games, but since nemeth has a low rating, it will take many wins to increase the computers elo, but if nemeth win some games, the computers elo will go down drastically because of nemeth's low rating.
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