Author: David Shanholtzer
Date: 05:08:08 01/04/06
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On January 04, 2006 at 00:19:05, Dann Corbit wrote: >>Let's assume that you have tournments against the top humans and you have rybka, >>fruit 2.2.1, shredder, fritz9, and hiarcs 10 all running on a single processor >>computer (a good one) Can we toss in Toga II v 1.1a? >> >>Let's further assume that the humans do not know they are playing computers and >>do not use an anticomputer style. >> >>Where would these five engines rate in the list of GMs? Would they be at the >>super gm level? Or would they barely beat master level players? > >Definitely, without doubt, super-GM at blitz. >It's wild extrapolation, but probably super-GM at 40/2. >It's even wilder extrapolation, but probably IM or GM even at correspondence. > >We really don't have a lot of data. Maybe the GM's would learn strategies >against them (but if that is the case, then why don't they similarly learn >strategies against each other). They do. That is why GM's, IM's, and others etc. for that matter, prepare for individual opponents prior to matches and tournaments. This is also where TNs come in. Players at this level spend a lot of time studying and working. (snipped) Much is written about the horizon effect for computers implying perhaps inadvertently that humans do not have such a limitation. But when it comes to concrete calculation, even the best of the best also have "horizon" limitations. This is not to say that a reasonably proficient player won't recognize some patterns which indicate a given result at some indefinite time in the future which computer programs may have some difficulty doing in many cases. On the other hand, these programs may and do at times find unanticipated resources that have been overlooked. Much has also been written about the probable results if the programs were not given access to their opening books when playing agianst humans. But how equal is the contest when it is not so easy to make a human forget his "books" when playing? Just my 1.73 worth. :)
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