Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:09:10 01/04/06
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On January 04, 2006 at 14:52:01, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 04, 2006 at 14:21:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 04, 2006 at 02:44:14, John J. J. Smith wrote: >> >>>On January 03, 2006 at 15:34:35, Murat wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>This forum has been the most popular place for me on internet for a long time. >>>>And frankly I have left the Computer Chess part of it mostly behind but I highly >>>>value the Club part. I like to read all the messages and reply when I feel like >>>>I can contribute. >>>> >>>>I also joke around with friends on various subjects. This is why I feel like at >>>>home here. >>>> >>>>However the latest tread deleting over a harmless joking around between friends >>>>left a bitter taste in my mouth. >>>> >>>>I can not talk for Steve but I myself disappointed, not to the moderators but >>>>the fact that there are members here who needed to complain about it. >>>> >>>>I hope that Steve will come back and keep posting about Dedicated Computers as >>>>well as other fun subjects. >>>> >>>>Let us not forget, the dedicated chess computers are still at the front lines of >>>>our beloved chess game. I don’t think a child’s interest in chess will arise >>>>from the latest and greatest 2700+ elo program on a 3.0 GHz machine but from the >>>>40 dollar dedicated unit his mommy had bought him/her from the local toy store. >>>> >>>>In my opinion the members who complained about the posts are doing great >>>>disservice to chess in general and to this forum in particular. >>>> >>>>Thank you for listening >>>> >>>>Murat :. >>> >>>I agree with Murat. We should all lighten up on this. Last year I had a post >>>deleted, presumably after a complaint from a certain member. It was, IMHO, a >>>humorous post that welcomed back Bob Hyatt after an absence. I was skocked to >>>find it deleted because it was apprently "offensive". I still don't know what >>>was wrong with it, apart from a dig at lawyers! >>> >>>Perhaps the moderator who deleted it may wish to comment on it? >>> >>>I support Steve and Ferd in their funny, but off-topic, posts here. If I get >>>tired of the banter, I just stop reading the posts. Isn't this a simple >>>solution? >>> >>>John >> >> >>A couple of points. >> >>1. I remember the post you referenced above. Didn't offend me in the least >>bit. But I could certainly see how one could think it might be offensive, since >>there are lots of ways to interpret humor/sarcasm/irony/etc... >> >>2. We really don't delete off-topic posts unless (a) they build up to a >>significant volume and (b) they produce multiple complaints. If you want to >>write a post about a one-armed wallpaper hanger, I doubt it will go away. If it >>blossoms into a long discussion about one-armed wallpaper hangers, it might well >>get deleted of course, because it will produce complaints... >> >>When we get a complaint, _someone_ is going to end up upset. Either we delete >>the post and the author gets upset, or we leave it up and the complainer gets >>upset. It's not an easy decision... > > >I have a little point for that topic. It were good if you had a tool to detect >fake accounts just like Murat or JJ Smith. If you did you could see that this >all is a hoax to belittle this forum as such. If all people had true identities >you would be surprised to see how completely unknown figures would remain silent >and who would certainly NOT complain about stuff they have no idea about. If >someone like Corbit or you came with a certain complaint I would carefully >examine the case if I were mod. All that is trivial. Bob, you must face the >truth that a single looner can explode in atomic particles of various identities >but all fakes. I know of people who own 7 (!) computers on their own. Let's see >that makes 122789 personalities if you seperate women from men... :) This makes great sense, but with the current software, Tim says this is not workable. We've been bugging him (we = current and many groups of previous moderators) for something like this for a long while. It started back when "Sean Evans" tried to stack the deck on moderator elections by creating _many_ different accounts so he could cast a huge number of votes for himself after he created a huge number of nominations for himself. :) We had a _lot_ of fun cleaning that mess up.
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