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Subject: Re: ops, wrong positions !

Author: Eelco de Groot

Date: 09:02:48 01/05/06

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On January 05, 2006 at 09:01:42, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote:

>On January 05, 2006 at 08:59:38, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote:
>
>First position:
> 8/Nprr1p1p/1n3Pp1/p2pP1k1/PbpP1R2/6P1/RP4NP/6K1 w - -
>
>Second position:
> r6r/1p3ppp/1n1bkn2/p2p4/P1pP4/2N1PN2/1P3PPP/R1B2RK1 b - -

Hello Daniel,

Pro Deo Vulcan gives here a reasonably high value for White's position

Athlon 2009 MHz 200 Mb HT

[D]8/Nprr1p1p/1n3Pp1/p2pP1k1/PbpP1R2/6P1/RP4NP/6K1 w - -

 00:00:00   1.00  -2.71  1.Nc6 Rxc6
 00:00:00   1.01  0.09  1.Nb5
 00:00:00   2.00  0.21  1.Nb5 Rc6
 00:00:00   3.00  0.28  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.Ne3
 00:00:00   4.00  0.31  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.Ne3 h5 3.h4
 00:00:00   5.00  0.31  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.Ne3 h5 3.h4 Kh6
 00:00:00   6.00  0.31  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.Ne3 h5 3.h4 Kh6
 00:00:00   7.00  0.32  1.Nb5 Rc8 2.Ne3 h5 3.h4 Kh6 4.Ra1
 00:00:00   8.00  0.32  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.Ne3 h5 3.Ra1 Rd8 4.h4 Kh6
 00:00:00   9.00  0.36  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.h4 Kh6 3.Ne3 Bd2 4.Rf3 Bb4 5.g4
 00:00:01  10.00  0.33  1.Nb5 Rc8 2.g4 Re8 3.h4 Kh6 4.Ne3 Rdd8 5.g5
                        Kh5 6.Ra1
 00:00:03  11.00  0.36  1.Nb5 Rc8 2.Ne3 h5 3.Nc2 Bf8 4.h4
 00:00:08  12.00  0.36  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.h4 Kh6 3.Ne3 Rd8 4.g4 Bd2 5.Rf3
                        Bb4 6.g5 Kh5 7.Rf4 Rcc8 8.Nf1 Be1 9.Nd6 h6
                        10.Nxc8
 00:00:19  12.03  0.36  1.Rf1
 00:00:25  13.00  0.38  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.h4 Kh6 3.Ne3 Rd8 4.g4 Re6 5.g5
                        Kh5 6.Nf1 Be1 7.Nd6 Rdxd6 8.exd6
 00:01:04  14.00  0.54  1.Nb5 Rc8 2.h4 Kh6 3.g4 Re8 4.Kf2 Bd2 5.Rf3
                        Nc8 6.Ne3 Bxe3 7.Kxe3 g5 8.Rh3
 00:01:54  15.00  0.57  1.Nb5 Rc8 2.h4 Kh6 3.g4 Rc6 4.Kf2 Bd2
 00:04:59  16.00  0.93  1.Nb5 Rc8 2.h4 Kh6 3.g4 Re8 4.b3 cxb3 5.g5
 00:11:04  17.00  1.06  1.Nb5 Rc6 2.h4 Kh6 3.g4

Quick search in the second position:

[D]r6r/1p3ppp/1n1bkn2/p2p4/P1pP4/2N1PN2/1P3PPP/R1B2RK1 b - -

 00:00:00   1.00  -1.62 1..Nxa4 2.Rxa4
 00:00:00   1.02  0.55  1..Ne4
 00:00:00   1.06  0.61  1..Rhe8
 00:00:00   2.00  0.33  1..Rhe8 2.Bd2
 00:00:00   3.00  0.31  1..Rhe8 2.Bd2 Kf5 3.Nh4
 00:00:00   4.00  0.24  1..Rhe8 2.Ng5 Ke7 3.e4 dxe4
 00:00:00   4.05  0.28  1..h6 2.Bd2 Rhe8 3.Rfc1
 00:00:00   5.00  0.25  1..h6 2.Bd2 Rhe8 3.Nb5 Ne4 4.Nxd6
 00:00:00   6.00  0.28  1..h6 2.Bd2 Ne4 3.Rfc1 Nxc3 4.Bxc3 Rhe8
 00:00:00   7.00  0.31  1..h6 2.Bd2 Ne4 3.Rfc1 Nxc3 4.Bxc3 Rhe8 5.Bd2
                        f6
 00:00:00   8.00  0.26  1..h6 2.Bd2 Ne4 3.Nb5 Rhe8 4.Rfc1 Nxd2 5.Nxd2
 00:00:00   9.00  0.23  1..h6 2.Nb5 Ne4 3.Nxd6 Kxd6 4.Ne5 Rhf8 5.f3
                        f6
 00:00:01  10.00  0.30  1..h6 2.Nb5 Rhe8 3.Nxd6 Kxd6 4.Ne5 Nbd7 5.f4
                        Ke7 6.Bd2 Nxe5
 00:00:03  11.00  0.27  1..h6 2.Bd2 Ne4 3.Nb5 Rhe8 4.Rfc1 f5 5.Be1
                        Nd7 6.Nxd6
 00:00:07  12.00  0.26  1..h6 2.Nb5 Rhe8 3.Ne5 Bb8 4.f3 Rd8 5.Bd2 Bxe5
                        6.dxe5 Kxe5
 00:00:58  13.00  0.16  1..h6 2.Nd2 Rhe8 3.f3 Kd7 4.e4 Bb4 5.g3 Rac8
                        6.Re1 Ke6 7.Kg2
 00:03:36  14.00  0.15  1..h6 2.Nd2 Rhe8 3.f3 Rac8 4.e4 Bb4

Somewhere between the first and the second position Black should have done it
better!

 Eelco





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