Author: Zheng Zhixian
Date: 03:09:20 01/06/06
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On January 05, 2006 at 10:39:59, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 04, 2006 at 21:36:45, Zheng Zhixian wrote: > >>As a rule i never answer to you Rolf in CTF even when you respond to me, mostly >>because I have no idea what you are saying usually, and partly because I suspect >>it's usually a waste of time anyway. But since your question is clear this time >>I shall answer. > >But it's a pity that you cant give a clear answer. I'm sorry if my message is unclear to you. But to be fair, yours is usually unclear to me too. Not this time so perhaps I should answer. >>A literal and easy answer, would be, CC could be your livelihood if you one of >>the professionals or a supporting team. >> >>But of course that only works for a small group of people and lacks generality. > > >Nope - this is completely false because for such guys this isnt a hobby. Clear >and straight. Well, this is probably semantics. If it's "more than" a hobby, it can be a livelihood. But in any case, it doesn't matter >No, excuse me but this is also completely false. Also someone who takes a hobby >very seriously and gives much more than normal people, this remains still a >hobby. Now you can differ. Someone with a job cant give the same as a student or >workless people. For them the hobby can become a replacement of real work, this >is correct. But in any case let's not get into a semantics debate about "more than a hobby" means. The point I'm trying to make is, how much passion, how seriously someone takes a certain activity is a choice one chooses to make. There is no right amount. You agree. >But Fernando isnt joking about such people. Not at all. It is also >NOT the question that "such" members allegedly have no humor. Nope! All that is >NOT the point for Fernando. I wonder if Fernando would agree with what you are saying. So what exactly do you think he is complaining about? >Let me explain what his problem really is: <psychoanalysis snipped> Ah so you are here arguing with me because you have a rival psychoanalysis! Sadly When you talk about so and so general, I have no clue what you are trying to say. Perhaps could you care to repeat it again in simple english without trying to sound intellectual by drawing parallels to historical figures? > But if it's true that you are stalking >Fernando then you are simply wrong in doing this. Fern isnt a holy man either >but he has not deserved to be stalked here as if he were the biggest ass__e on >this planet. I supposed you could say I'm 'stalking' Fernando. But not in the sense that I follow him around reading every posts of his , but yes when he draws attention to himself with new threads, and launches on his lectures, I do sit up and take notice. I lecture the lecturer. And no he's not the biggest ass_e on this planet. Though i admit, my impression of him based on posts is negative with respect to his desire to seek attention (which applies to you too by the way). I have never said he's evil, nor have I called him 'fool' or any other nasty terms which he has heaped on other people (all jokingly of course). Let me answer you directly. You are not stupid, so it is not you >Fernando can mean. The only question open for answers is why you, not stupid, >are stalking him this way? Why dont you find other issues fitting your class? Or >is it because in real you are not Chinese? Why wouldn't a chinese 'stalk' Fernando? Or do you think an american, German or whatever nationality would be more likely? From there can you deduce who I am? Sune maybe? LOL. Paranoids. Let me help you. I'm not saying it true of me, but supposedly chinese care a lot for 'face'. So one would certainly be a lot sensitive to insults and talking down lessons by someone who sets himself up to be an expert. That you once were with Fern in a >heated argument under a different name? Just try to get over it. It interesting that Fern thought so too. I suppose that's common enough, for people to dislike because of some personal incident. But to the limits of my memory, I have never had a argument with him (including "accounts under a different name" lol) over anything else. My dislike of how he acts stems directly from his posts the way he posts. Believe it or not. >But here you misunderstand him. I explain this way: He always writes with >tdongue in cheek, always with conscience that other views are also perfectly >normal and not only his own. Always? He must be a saint then . But you already said he isn't. What normal person wouldn't get hurt, when his posts (which arguably shouldn't be deleted) are deleted? Particularly one who is celebrity, one who is aware of his own standing in CCC being one of the old guard? One who no doubt has a very healthy ego being famous. You claim to be a psychologist, Rolf, please read Fern's post in this thread again, and tell me he intends to only educate everyone, and that it has *nothing* to do with his posts being deleted. In additional do refer to various threads with me, where he admitted he does get angry and fustrated at fools (or some other colorful phrase that he loves to use). Now tell me again, does Fern never get angry? In your view Fern must be a saint. >It is not orrect to call him semi. He IS someone in Chile. And he still is here. >Chile isnt Germany, China or the USA, but still it is fine that he is here. You >miss something else. Joking in that format he uses is always a bit looking like >dumping someone else who doesnt quite get it. But this is NOT what Fernando has >intended. But look at it from his side: how low should he bend his head so that >everybody, all of us, are satisfied? Would that be ok? Bend his head? Where ever did you get this idea I recommend he do this? No normal person even a older timer would think of going to a forum and lecturing others on how to live life, that their concerns are trival (unless they are about other stuff) etc. So according to you, everyone is bending their heads? Except maybe one who is used to being considered special, and being watched. Just like how you see hollywood people using their fame to hawk products, camapaign on issues etc. Fern has no special skills with CC, so i guess he seeks attention in other ways. Apparantly he's not happy with all the attention he gets with his connections to chile grandmasters or when he interviews chess personalities.... He might be a celebrity in Chile. But why should he act like one in CCC? There are many people on CCC who in the context of CC are real celebrities and they don't go around telling people how life should be led. That they lack humor , that x is trival. If I wanted to be lectured, I would rather be lectured by them, at least I admire them. >Yes. Then you are perhaps too young to know that. If you get older and senile, >only humor can hold you in form. If you lose it you become ridiculous. Ah the ultimate putdown. I'm old, so i'm right. >>I hope he's not being serious if he is, I can't help but think he is setting >>himself up to be mocked, with all this earnst seriousness. Or perhas as he says, >>he is merely in the position of a fool in the "Peter Seller movie giving >>political absurd advices" > > >Yes, ok, but with his humor he's really serious and I am backing him, since I'm >still older. Ah yes, you are perhaps so old, that you can't even think straight.
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