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Subject: Re: Much better is the List by Kurt Utzinger!

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 16:25:14 01/06/06

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On January 06, 2006 at 15:13:04, Zappa wrote:

>On January 06, 2006 at 06:07:09, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 2006 at 19:53:06, enrico carrisco wrote:
>>
>>>The CSS Rating List is complete and available at the link below.  I've
>>>translated the German introduction to english -- but be aware:  I am not a
>>>native German speaker and there could be some slight mistakes.  Overall, the
>>>message should be very close.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>-elc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Link:
>>>http://www.computerschach.de/index.php?option=com_wrapper&wrap=Rangliste&Itemid=127
>>
>>Reason: CSS tests with timecontrol "10m+10s / game"
>>
>>Kurt Utzinger tests with timecontrol "40' / moves"
>>
>>Here:
>>
>>Hiarcs 10 won one match and loses 3 matches
>>(against Rybka, Toga II (!), and against Fritz 9)
>>
>>31,0-19,0   (62 %)   vs Shredder 9 UCI
>>
>>22,5-27,5   (45 %)   vs   Fritz 9
>>21,0-29,0   (42 %)   vs   Toga II 1.1.
>>16,0-34,0   (32 %)   vs   Rybka 1.0. Beta 32-bit
>>
>>Rating list 5moves/Nunn2 40'/40:
>>
>>http://www.utzingerk.com/rating_list.htm
>>
>>That is an serious Rating-list!
>>
>>ED:
>
>Here I disagree; Kurt runs at 40 minutes / game, but he also runs on hardware
>from 1960, so the actual "cycles / move" is probably not that far off.
>
>anthony

Yes, it's a good point.  CSS Rating List uses AMD XP 2.09GHz and Kurt uses AMD
1.3GHz.  CSS' hardware is about 62% faster which means their 10min + 10sec
matches are equivalent to about game in 30 min.(+/-) on Kurt's hardware (or
17+17 for those that dislike my conversion of the increment.)

I would imagine the CSS folks would want to know from "Ed" just what happens in
that roughly 10 extra minutes that turns Kurt's list into a "serious
Rating-list!" and discredits theirs.

Perhaps we shouldn't confuse him with the facts as his mind has been made up for
quite some time now, concerning HIARCS 10.

Regards,

-elc.




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