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Subject: Re: Is this queen sacrifice sound? (OT)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:35:00 01/07/06

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On January 07, 2006 at 03:24:37, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 06, 2006 at 19:07:39, Robin Smith wrote:
>
>>On January 06, 2006 at 05:37:44, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>BTW, I prepare some other very hard test positions mainly from CCC archives.
>>>I've about 25 positions now , I'll post them next week.
>>>
>>>May be Rybka Winfinder will show some surprising results here...
>>
>>Here is another position for your database.
>>[D] r1qr2k1/pb2bpp1/1p2p2p/2p4n/3P1B2/2PB1N2/PP2QPP1/1K1R2R1 w - - 0 16 bm
>>16.Bxh6
>>
>>This is from a correspondence game I played many years ago. It would be
>>interesting to see how programs do today, but when I tried Rybka Winfinder on it
>>using my 2 year old laptop it still was not solved after several hours. The
>>position 1 move earlier is absurdly hard for computers.
>>
>>-Robin
>
>I do not have rybka winfinder but maybe rybka slightly positional is better
>here.
>
>with 512 mbytes hash
>After more than 30 minutes of analysis it considers Bxh6 at least in the last 12
>minutes(it does not choose this move but I see it in the analysis window for a
>long time)
>
>New game
>[D]r1qr2k1/pb2bpp1/1p2p2p/2p4n/3P1B2/2PB1N2/PP2QPP1/1K1R2R1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit:
>
>1.Bd2
>  =  (0.05)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>1.Bd2
>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1.Be3
>  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>1.Be3 Nf6
>  =  (0.01)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>1.Be3 Nf6 2.Ne5
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  11kN
>1.Be3 Qc7 2.Ne5 Nf6
>  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  27kN
>1.Be3 Qc7 2.Ne5 Nf6 3.Rh1
>  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 8   00:00:01  61kN
>1.Bd2 Qc7 2.Ne5 Nf6 3.dxc5
>  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  107kN
>1.Bd2 Qc7 2.Ne5 Nf6 3.Bf4 cxd4
>  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  155kN
>1.Be3 Qc7 2.g3 Nf6 3.dxc5 bxc5 4.Bf4
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  191kN
>1.Be5 Nf6 2.g4 Nd7 3.Bf4 Qc6
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 9   00:00:05  268kN
>1.Be5 Nf6 2.g4 Nd5 3.Rh1 Qc6 4.Rh3
>  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 10   00:00:10  502kN
>1.Bh2 Nf6 2.g4 Bxf3 3.Qxf3 cxd4 4.cxd4 Nd5 5.Be5
>  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 10   00:00:15  741kN
>1.Bh2 Nf6 2.g4 Bxf3 3.Qxf3 cxd4 4.cxd4 Nd5 5.Qe4 g6
>  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 11   00:00:17  869kN
>1.Bh2 Nf6 2.g4 Bxf3 3.Qxf3 cxd4 4.cxd4 Nd5 5.Qe4 g6
>  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 12   00:00:26  1336kN
>1.Be5 Nf6 2.g4 Nd7 3.Bf4 Qc6 4.Rg3 c4 5.Bxc4
>  =  (-0.05)   Depth: 12   00:00:52  2477kN
>1.Be5 Qc6 2.Rh1 Nf6 3.Rh4 a5 4.Bb5 Qc8 5.Bd3 Bd5
>  =  (-0.11)   Depth: 13   00:01:37  4695kN
>1.Be5 Qc6 2.Nd2 Nf6 3.dxc5 bxc5 4.Bb5 Qb6 5.Bd3 Bd5
>  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 14   00:03:14  9335kN
>1.Bh2 Nf6 2.g4 Bxf3 3.Qxf3 cxd4 4.cxd4 Nd5 5.Qe4 g6
>  =  (-0.02)   Depth: 14   00:04:30  12834kN
>1.Bh2 Nf6 2.g4 Bxf3 3.Qxf3 cxd4 4.cxd4 Nd5 5.Qe4 g6
>  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 15   00:05:49  16231kN
>1.Bh2 Nf6 2.g4 cxd4 3.Nxd4 Nd5 4.Be5 Bg5 5.Be4 Nf4
>  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 16   00:09:48  27110kN
>
>(,  07.01.2006)


As I predicted
I get the following line

1.Bxh6 cxd4 2.Nxd4 Nf6 3.Bf4
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 16   00:39:24  97218kN

(,  07.01.2006)

I do not have rybka win finder but it is probably slower based on Robin Smith's
post

Uri



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