Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 01:41:47 01/07/06
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On January 07, 2006 at 04:16:29, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >Hi Thorsten >The different rating lists are almost equal as far as >playing strength of Hiarcs 10 (with default settings) >is concerned. no. following your own links >CSS Rating List: Hiarcs 10 = Rank 2 >(but neither Rybka nor Toga are included) >http://www.computerschach.de/index.php?option=com_wrapper&wrap=erangliste&Itemid=152 this is 10' blitz+10" and hiarcs10 is above F9 and above S9. It is 2 ELO points behind Fruit2.2.1. I do quote the comments of the list makers: "Hiarcs 10 obtained a score of 70,9% or an elo rating of 2809 points at the series of tests more than the 480 games. This means an elo increase of phenomenal 111 points to Hiarcs 9. " Again: this is Blitz ! >GS Rating List: Hiarcs 10 = Rank 3 >http://www.pcschach.de/Texte/p3rating.html This is a SLOW P3 PC with small hashtables (16MB!!) and although the PC is slow the level was blitz 30' hiarcs score is not that bad: 1 Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit 2827 29 44 304 71.9 % 2664 26.6 % 2 Deep Shredder 9 UCI(t2) 2806 20 33 612 71.9 % 2643 22.9 % 3 Hiarcs 10 2780 39 41 208 63.7 % 2682 33.2 % 4 Fruit 2.2 2778 23 31 520 67.3 % 2653 26.5 % 5 Shredder 8(t2) 2767 27 35 398 67.0 % 2644 26.4 % 6 Deep Fritz 7(t2) 2761 23 28 580 64.7 % 2656 26.6 % 7 Deep Shredder 9 UCI(t1) 2760 21 32 580 69.0 % 2621 23.1 % 8 Fritz 9 2753 24 31 522 66.2 % 2636 23.6 % this means here hiarcs is again > fruit and > F9 and single-cpu S9. Only rybka is better in this list. >CEGT Rating List: Hiarcs 10 = Rank 5 >http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/cegtrating4040pure.html this is the list that makes me the most problems. it is 40/40 and this is the same time control i do usually test. I cannot reproduce that h10 is behind fruit or fritz. >Utzinger Rating List: Hiarcs 10 = Rank 5 >http://www.utzingerk.com/rating_list.htm same problem with your list. >Michael's Rating List: Hiarcs 10 = Rank 6 >http://chessengines.vs243093.vserver.de/turniere/blitzturniere/blitzrangliste.html this is again a blitz rating list. To sum up we have: people playing on slow machines in blitz level ! People not playing with default books. people playing with faster hardware but not 40/40. it is IMO very difficult to find out about the prog. when people use these different and weird settings, especially when it is not about the STRONGEST program (rybka) but about 2nd, 3rd or 4th programs.
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